A revealed religion where those born of Spirit within feel cool breeze
From: "jagbir singh"
Date: Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:25 am
Subject: A revealed religion where those born of Spirit within feel cool breeze
—- In shriadishakti@yahoogroups.com," jagbir singh"
>
> It may be possible that this SY may not understand what vibrations
> actually are, perhaps regarding them as the physical wind or
> breeze humans experience. That is what i gather from: "I am in
> sahajayoga from last 8 years but still i am not feel strong and
> cool vibrations.”Maybe there is a misconception or his/her
> expectations are rather high because there are SYs who feel the
> cool breeze very strongly. It sometimes makes one think that the
> cool breeze can be used to cool oneself on a hot summer day. But
> that is not the case.
>
> Alex, i remember you describing your own experience regarding this
> cool breeze to Giahn (or her pals) a few weeks ago. Perhaps that
> accurate description would help clarify what this mystical cool
> breeze actually feels and lower wind velocity to an acceptable
> level.
>
>
From: alex arthur
Date: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:49 am
Subject: A revealed religion (SY Perspective)
Hi Melete (Regards to Giahn too).
Your mail is definitely well intended. Im sure you or
someone you know, might have had certain unpleasant
experience. Please dont bother to elaborate on them
because i have heard enough and been through enough
myself.
I've only breezed through your mail and probably have
just a gist in my head as i frame this reply. Let me
assure you, the vibrations I feel on my hand are
nothing my head has conjured up for me. They are very
very real. Physical and strong..almost like a buzz or
the humming of a little bee. And they are there for
the most part of the day, unless of course my
attention gets wrapped up into something worldly.
Let me also tell you that I was far more skeptical
than any of you, including Simon himself could ever
be. The only thing I refrained from doing, was passing
a judgement until I heard all the pro's and con's.
Over and above that, I wanted to experience things for
myself. Even after I received the divine vibrations I
was still skeptical. But today, perhaps 6-7 months
after joining SY, i can confidently tell you that
there is nothing to fear. The allegations which most
anti SY's pass are overly exaggerated.
If you would truly like to pass an independent
judgement, then try getting initiated and like a
scientist, experience things for your self. Further,
you may want to read through certain texts, which will
help you undersatnd various phenomena.
1. Patanjali's yoga sutras (Marshall Govindan)
2. Ancient science and art of pranic healing (Cho kok
Sui - i think)
3. Talks on the path of Occultism - (the theosophical
society, C.W. Leadbeater)
Its really a waste of time though, because at the end
of it you'll find that SY encompasses everything.
Also, a wonderful atesting' experience would be : Read
a spiritual text like say the Bhagavad Gita before you
join SY. Then join SY. After a month of meditation,
read the Gita again. I assure you, the entire meaning
would have changed becuase of your self realisation.
There are a few things which i must admit are dogmas
and cultish phenomena witnessed in most cults. You
dont have to adhere to these to be a practicing SY. I
for one, dont greet everybody with 'Jai Shri Mataji' i
smoke, I drink (I must warn you though that these
definitely steal your peace of mind).
You dont have to wear a sari, its a lovely garment
though. You dont have to put a big red blotch on your
forehead...in the US your office colleagues will think
you are whacko. You dont have to sit in a collective
forever. Though collective meditation at least for the
first 5-6 months will speed your growth. What else?>
Um....as for the bhoots and possessions...they are all
very real but harmless. Dont bother with them. Once
you have settled into meditation, no spirit or
possession can harm you. You dont have to desert your
family, on the contrary your familial relations will
improve. You dont have to go about like a raving
lunatic trying to convert even atheists. Just do it
for yourself.
Apart from these there are loads of threats which SM
has given that if you dont do XYZ then terrible things
will happen to you. But, by her own admission, and
this is on the tapes too, she has said these things
for our own benefit. You wont really get cancer or you
wont really go bankrupt, but if the fear of that helps
you stay a moral person, then there is nothing to
lose.
Most people on this Group are so anti SY that no
amount of convincing will change anything. However, To
close this mail, consider the following:
1. Does any other system of meditation/religion/yoga,
give you these vibrations???
Therefore, and logically, the giver must in some form
be divine???
i am in no mood to share the numerous miracles i am
experiencing. But trust me, they are happening.
Also, I know this is the most anti SY thing I could
do, and i strongly recommend that you dont get into SY
for this.....but you really do start getting powers.
Real powers, not imaginary. You can test them, the
results will astound you. The catch here is that if
you misuse them, or wish anyone harm, it'll come
straight back to you. Also, if its powers you seek,
you will NEVER get them. IF you do, then they will
halt your spiritual growth at that level.
Sounds too good to be true? trust me it is.
Alex
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