Confucius: "Now, where does such a man derive his power and knowledge?

From:  "jagbir singh" <>
Date:  Sat Oct 30, 2004  8:43 pm
Subject:  Confucius: "Now, where does such a man derive his power and knowledge?"

—- In, Bagus Santoso <bagus@i...>
> Dear Jagbir,
> Thank you very much for answering my questions and doubts.
> (I wish I could find better word for my thanks to you).
> Just for your additional information, actually I have some matters
> to note about Confucianism. Confucius indeed told a lot of things
> about God Almighty. He usually referred It as "Heaven".
> And after I got realization and reviewing some of His books,..
> somehow I realized that He also pointed some about enlightenment
> and three channels (ida, pingala, shushumna) implicitly.
> (I am still looking for kundalini, and I won't be surprised if I
> would find it)
> And I have to be honest with you that one of the most important
> reasons that made me keep trying to seek the truth in SY was that
> Shri Mataji acknowledged Confucius as one of 10 Primordial
> Masters :-)

Dear Bagus,

"The scriptures of many religions speak of a coming leader who will
consummate the fulfillment of the divine will on earth. He will
manifest in his person the righteousness and compassion of God, and
he will bring about the final defeat of evil, and establish
the Kingdom of Heaven on earth. The Hebrew title Messiah -
'Christ' in Greek means "anointed one," that person who will be
specially chosen by God for this mission and empowered to accomplish
it. But while the term Messiah is specific to only a few religions,
prophecies that a leader will come and accomplish such a mission are
nearly universal. Religions call him by various names: Jews long for
the promised Messiah; for Christians the Messiah is Jesus of
Nazareth, who has already come and ascended to heaven but will
reappear (perhaps in a new guise) at his Second Coming. Muslims also
expect the second advent of Jesus, who will come as a Muslim Imam,
and among Shiite Muslims there are various expectations of a future
Imam Mahdi. Buddhist sutras prophesy the coming of the Maitreya
Buddha; Vaishnavite Hindu scriptures prophesy the future descent of
an avatar named Kalki; Zoroastrian scriptures prophesy the coming of
the Saoshyant; and some Confucian texts speak of a future True Man
who will finally bring peace to the world by perfectly instituting
the Way of Confucius." 1

i just came across this Doctrine of the Mean from Confucius that
seem to confirm what you say about this Primordial Master's
relation to Sahaja Yoga - kundalini awakening, self-realization,
knowledge of Sahasrara, self-mastery, supreme enlightenment and hint
of immortality.

What i found fascinating is that Confucius is in complete agreement
with all other prophets and messengers of God, including Shri
Mataji: "Now, where does such a man derive his power and knowledge,
except from himself?"

jai Shri Mataji,



It is only the man with the most perfect divine moral nature who is
able to combine in himself quickness of apprehension, intelligence
and understanding—qualities necessary for the exercise of command,
magnanimity, generosity, benignity, and gentleness— qualities
necessary for the exercise of patience, originality, energy,
strength of character, and determination—qualities necessary for
the exercise of endurance, piety, noble seriousness, order, and
regularity—qualities necessary for the exercise of dignity,
grace, method, subtlety, and penetration—qualities necessary for
the exercise of critical judgment.

Thus all-embracing and vast is the nature of such a man. Profound
it is and inexhaustible, like a living spring of water, ever running
out with life and vitality. All-embracing and vast, it is like
Heaven. Profound and inexhaustible, it is like the abyss.

As soon as such a man shall make his appearance in the world, all
people will reverence him. Whatever he says, all people will
believe it. Whatever he does, all people will be pleased with it.
Thus his fame and name will spread and fill all the civilized world,
extending even to savage countries, wherever ships and carriages
reach, wherever the labor and enterprise of man penetrate, wherever
the heavens overshadow and the earth sustain, wherever the sun and
moon shine, wherever frost and dew fall. All who have life and
breath will honor and love him. Therefore we may say, "He is the
equal of God."

It is only he in this world, who has realized his absolute self,
that can order and adjust the great relations of human society, fix
the fundamental principles of morality, and understand the laws of
growth and reproduction of the universe.

Now, where does such a man derive his power and knowledge, except
from himself? How simple and self-contained his true manhood! How
unfathomable the depth of his mind! How infinitely grand and vast
the moral height of his nature! Who can understand such a nature
except he who is gifted with the most perfect intelligence and
endowed with the highest divine qualities of character, and who has
reached in his moral development the level of the gods?

Confucius, Doctrine of the Mean 31-32

1. Professor Andrew Wilson, Unification Theological Seminary



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