Kumud, you can, by reason of lack of conscience, enjoy their bliss of their ignorance!
—- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com," Kumud
Sharma"
Dear All,
Adishakti.org contain volumes of reading material but Jagbir,
Violet and like minded people
who has contributed ,with great efforts , nice spiritual materials
are busy in abusing WCASY and SYs. Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS working selflessly
in spreading the great message of Shri Mataji
and working towards our Mother's vision and dream of realised
souls in the world.
With love to all
Kumud
—- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com," Violet"
Dear Kumud,
Again, you are confusing the issue of who is doing the abusing,
i.e. the domination of other SYS and who is pointing it out. Would
you say that Christ abused the tax collectors when he drove them with
a whip out of the temple for doing the wrong thing? Was that abuse?
Is calling a spade a spade, i.e. telling the truth, an abuse? i don't
think so. Telling the truth may not always seem nice, but without
truth, we are all lost, Kumud. WCASY and SYS who follow WCASY instead
of the Divine within, to whom Shri Mataji pointed them, are already
on the wrong path. They will never become their own masters, while
they follow man, instead of the Holy Spirit within.
warm regards,
violet
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:31 PM, jagbir singh
Hi Kumud,
Unlike you, my brothers and sisters are the whole of humanity. If you
think we are alien in SY world, you are damn right - we are the only
ones who are demanding SYs be truthful ....... and giving evidence
of the corruption taking place right under their noses.
And i don't know how many times will i have to repeat that these
articles are be archived so the future seekers will know the true
nature, advent and message of Shri Mataji, and why, despite being the
Adi Shakti, She was so unsuccessful at reaching out to the masses for
the first three decades. If you can do the same job i am willing to
vacate mine.
But if at this eleventh hour you can still condone the insult of
insignificance of Her advent and message to a world at large, and
instead want to apply balm to the hurt egos of your SY brother and
sisters by holding them to your gargantuan bosom of compassion, then
you will get a piece of my mind. This forum is not for you. There is
the WCASY approved divinesahajayoga forum where you can, by reason of
lack of conscience, enjoy the bliss of their ignorance.
You are asking me to maintain Silence on Self. i am! But that does
not mean being aloof and indifferent to corruption of conscience. It
is better i call you a liar than condone your lying with silence. You
don't seem to grasp the reason and purpose of gathering evidence of
your lying ...... and i have no intention of giving details.
The Truth will definitely outlast and overcome the present SY
organization. It can wait 10, 20 ..... 50 years or longer. The
outcome, Kumud, is as guaranteed as the sun rising every morning. i
am just making sure that Truth will triumph ....... by picking and
exposing each and every maggot of corruption, falsehood and lie
that is devouring the SY organization of its strength and vitality.
i have not picked and exposed all of them yet. So please let me
finish this unpleasant task. Why are you complaining so LOUDLY when
we are doing all this dirty work?
There is also a correction to be made in your post, and i quote:
"Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS working selflessly in
spreading the great message of Shri Mataji"
It should have read: "Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS
working selflessly and truthfully in spreading the great message of
Shri Mataji.” Since you omitted"And truthfully"you too are
condoning their dishonesty without being conscious. So what is wrong
with us being conscious? And what is the"great message"that they are so
selflessly spreading? Can you enlighten me please?
And the sentence continues:
"And working towards our Mother's vision and dream of realised souls
in the world.”
Our Mother's vision and dream is to emancipate humanity by making
them aware of, and participating in, the Blossom Time. Can you also
enlighten me as to what She means by"Blossom Time"?
Kumud, you are not only barking up the wrong tree, but also doing so
for the wrong reasons. That, my friend, is really, really sad. Sad
because your self-realization is suspect. (It is suspect because it
betrays a hint of condoning dishonesty.) Really, really sad because
it condemns those who keep insisting others to be honest.
jagbir
—- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com," v_koa"
Dear Kamud,
Indeed mothers vision of spreading her message to the world is the
most important thing in the life of a sahaja yogi. However; the
message of Shri Mataji and the one that Sahaja Yogis should be
Sharing is that of the kundalini, the last judgment,resurrection and
evolution of the human into the spirit, NOT about stress relief,
meditation for peace of mind and healing, as is the message being
spread in public meetings and events of SY. Those are all BY-PRODUCTS
of growing into the spirit and realizing Shri Mataji, not the point
of Shri Matajis incarnation, Sahaja Yoga or anything else.
With that in mind, it is easy to see that the message being spread,
as you refer to it"mother's Message", is such a superficial version
of the message.
A question if i may. If Mother's message about the last judgment and
the evolution of the human into the spirit [is] due to the grace of the
Holy Spirit(Shri Mataji), then why is it that Shri Mataji remains the
great spiritual teacher of our age and Not the incarnation of The Adi
Shakti (who she is) at public meetings?
My love
kyyan
Re: Kumud, you can, by reason of lack of conscience, enjoy the bliss of their ignorance!
>
> It is clear that the vast majority of SYs think they are spiritual
> warriors valiantly bearing the message of the Adi Shakti to the
> entire world. They have no doubt in the hearts and mind that they
> are spreading Shri Mataji's teachings to all corners of the Earth.
>
> With such a collective mindset conditioned over the decades, SYs
> become very disturbed and agitated if given proof to the contrary.
> Their minds refuse to accept even the very words of Shri Mataji. It
> recoils at the evidence of its own corruption.
>
Truth
The Mahabharata
Santi Parva, Section CLXII
Translated by Sri Kisari Mohan Ganguli
Yudhishthira said: Brahmanas and Rishis and Pitris and the gods all
applaud the duty of truth. I desire to hear of truth. Discourse to me
upon it, O grandsire! What are the indications, O king, of truth? How
may it be acquired? What is gained by practising truth, and how? Tell
me all this.
Bhishma said: A confusion of the duties of the four orders is never
applauded. That which is called Truth always exists in a pure and
unmingled state in every one of those four orders. With those that
are good, Truth is always a duty. Indeed, Truth is an eternal duty.
One should reverentially bow unto Truth. Truth is the highest refuge
(of all). Truth is duty; Truth is penance; Truth is Yoga; and Truth
is the eternal Brahman. Truth has been said to be Sacrifice of a
higher order. Everything rests upon Truth.
www.hinduism.co.za/truth.htm
So Kumud, without question, the very survival of Shri Mataji's Advent
and Message rests on Truth. Sahaja Yoga has been such an abysmal
failure because our leaders were always averse at telling the truth,
and made sure the rank and file followed their unfathomable fears.
It has now reached a point where the very survival of the Comforter's
teachings are in jeopardy. WCASY has edited out all reference to the
eschatological fulfillment of Lord Jesus' promise two millennia ago.
Official Sahaja Yoga (www.sahajayoga.org) today is the bare, bleached
bones and remains—almost unrecognizable and devoid of the nourishing
truth, scriptural vitality and eschatological power—of the Adi
Shakti's teachings and message to humanity.
https://adishakti.org and its affiliated sites are the only source
of the Comforter's teachings. Everything now rests upon the Truth at
these sites where the Adi Shakti brings us to remembrance about God
Almighty, Last Judgment, Resurrection, Second Birth, Kingdom of God,
Aykaa Mayee, Al-Qiyamah, Imam Mahdi, Spirit, Sahasarara, kundalini,
moksa, human evolution, eternal life, and so forth. Not only that, but
the Comforter also completes Jesus' teachings.
All these topics are collectively vital and indispensable for the
comprehension of the general public. Only detailed knowledge of these
crucial issues, so dear to the hearts of seekers and believers, will
bring forth the anticipated emancipation of humanity. The Advent and
Message of Shri Mataji must be declared and explained in all its
entirety. All forms of negativity working against that must be, like
maggots, picked up to be exposed and destroyed. It does not matter
who these maggots are.
Everything rests upon Truth now,
jagbir
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