Kumud, you can, by reason of lack of conscience, enjoy their bliss of their ignorance!


—- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com," Kumud Sharma" wrote:

Dear All,

Adishakti.org contain volumes of reading material but Jagbir, Violet and like minded people who has contributed ,with great efforts , nice spiritual materials are busy in abusing WCASY and SYs. Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS working selflessly in spreading the great message of Shri Mataji and working towards our Mother's vision and dream of realised souls in the world.

With love to all

Kumud



—- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com," Violet" wrote:

Dear Kumud,

Again, you are confusing the issue of who is doing the abusing, i.e. the domination of other SYS and who is pointing it out. Would you say that Christ abused the tax collectors when he drove them with a whip out of the temple for doing the wrong thing? Was that abuse? Is calling a spade a spade, i.e. telling the truth, an abuse? i don't think so. Telling the truth may not always seem nice, but without truth, we are all lost, Kumud. WCASY and SYS who follow WCASY instead of the Divine within, to whom Shri Mataji pointed them, are already on the wrong path. They will never become their own masters, while they follow man, instead of the Holy Spirit within.

warm regards,

violet



On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 9:31 PM, jagbir singh wrote:

Hi Kumud,

Unlike you, my brothers and sisters are the whole of humanity. If you think we are alien in SY world, you are damn right - we are the only ones who are demanding SYs be truthful ....... and giving evidence of the corruption taking place right under their noses.

And i don't know how many times will i have to repeat that these articles are be archived so the future seekers will know the true nature, advent and message of Shri Mataji, and why, despite being the Adi Shakti, She was so unsuccessful at reaching out to the masses for the first three decades. If you can do the same job i am willing to vacate mine.

But if at this eleventh hour you can still condone the insult of insignificance of Her advent and message to a world at large, and instead want to apply balm to the hurt egos of your SY brother and sisters by holding them to your gargantuan bosom of compassion, then you will get a piece of my mind. This forum is not for you. There is the WCASY approved divinesahajayoga forum where you can, by reason of lack of conscience, enjoy the bliss of their ignorance.

You are asking me to maintain Silence on Self. i am! But that does not mean being aloof and indifferent to corruption of conscience. It is better i call you a liar than condone your lying with silence. You don't seem to grasp the reason and purpose of gathering evidence of your lying ...... and i have no intention of giving details.

The Truth will definitely outlast and overcome the present SY organization. It can wait 10, 20 ..... 50 years or longer. The outcome, Kumud, is as guaranteed as the sun rising every morning. i am just making sure that Truth will triumph ....... by picking and exposing each and every maggot of corruption, falsehood and lie that is devouring the SY organization of its strength and vitality.

i have not picked and exposed all of them yet. So please let me finish this unpleasant task. Why are you complaining so LOUDLY when we are doing all this dirty work?

There is also a correction to be made in your post, and i quote:

"Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS working selflessly in spreading the great message of Shri Mataji"

It should have read: "Aren't they aware that the world needs SYS working selflessly and truthfully in spreading the great message of Shri Mataji." Since you omitted"And truthfully"you too are condoning their dishonesty without being conscious. So what is wrong with us being conscious? And what is the"great message"that they are so selflessly spreading? Can you enlighten me please?

And the sentence continues:

"And working towards our Mother's vision and dream of realised souls in the world."

Our Mother's vision and dream is to emancipate humanity by making them aware of, and participating in, the Blossom Time. Can you also enlighten me as to what She means by"Blossom Time"?

Kumud, you are not only barking up the wrong tree, but also doing so for the wrong reasons. That, my friend, is really, really sad. Sad because your self-realization is suspect. (It is suspect because it betrays a hint of condoning dishonesty.) Really, really sad because it condemns those who keep insisting others to be honest.

jagbir



—- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com," v_koa" wrote:

Dear Kamud,

Indeed mothers vision of spreading her message to the world is the most important thing in the life of a sahaja yogi. However; the message of Shri Mataji and the one that Sahaja Yogis should be Sharing is that of the kundalini, the last judgment,resurrection and evolution of the human into the spirit, NOT about stress relief, meditation for peace of mind and healing, as is the message being spread in public meetings and events of SY. Those are all BY-PRODUCTS of growing into the spirit and realizing Shri Mataji, not the point of Shri Matajis incarnation, Sahaja Yoga or anything else.

With that in mind, it is easy to see that the message being spread, as you refer to it"mother's Message", is such a superficial version of the message.

A question if i may. If Mother's message about the last judgment and the evolution of the human into the spirit [is] due to the grace of the Holy Spirit(Shri Mataji), then why is it that Shri Mataji remains the great spiritual teacher of our age and Not the incarnation of The Adi Shakti (who she is) at public meetings?

My love

kyyan


Re: Kumud, you can, by reason of lack of conscience, enjoy the bliss of their ignorance!

>
> It is clear that the vast majority of SYs think they are spiritual
> warriors valiantly bearing the message of the Adi Shakti to the
> entire world. They have no doubt in the hearts and mind that they
> are spreading Shri Mataji's teachings to all corners of the Earth.
>
> With such a collective mindset conditioned over the decades, SYs
> become very disturbed and agitated if given proof to the contrary.
> Their minds refuse to accept even the very words of Shri Mataji. It
> recoils at the evidence of its own corruption.
>

Truth
The Mahabharata
Santi Parva, Section CLXII
Translated by Sri Kisari Mohan Ganguli

Yudhishthira said: Brahmanas and Rishis and Pitris and the gods all applaud the duty of truth. I desire to hear of truth. Discourse to me upon it, O grandsire! What are the indications, O king, of truth? How may it be acquired? What is gained by practising truth, and how? Tell me all this.

Bhishma said: A confusion of the duties of the four orders is never applauded. That which is called Truth always exists in a pure and unmingled state in every one of those four orders. With those that are good, Truth is always a duty. Indeed, Truth is an eternal duty. One should reverentially bow unto Truth. Truth is the highest refuge (of all). Truth is duty; Truth is penance; Truth is Yoga; and Truth is the eternal Brahman. Truth has been said to be Sacrifice of a higher order. Everything rests upon Truth.

www.hinduism.co.za/truth.htm

So Kumud, without question, the very survival of Shri Mataji's Advent and Message rests on Truth. Sahaja Yoga has been such an abysmal failure because our leaders were always averse at telling the truth, and made sure the rank and file followed their unfathomable fears.

It has now reached a point where the very survival of the Comforter's teachings are in jeopardy. WCASY has edited out all reference to the eschatological fulfillment of Lord Jesus' promise two millennia ago. Official Sahaja Yoga (www.sahajayoga.org) today is the bare, bleached bones and remains—almost unrecognizable and devoid of the nourishing truth, scriptural vitality and eschatological power—of the Adi Shakti's teachings and message to humanity.

http://adishakti.org and its affiliated sites are the only source of the Comforter's teachings. Everything now rests upon the Truth at these sites where the Adi Shakti brings us to remembrance about God Almighty, Last Judgment, Resurrection, Second Birth, Kingdom of God, Aykaa Mayee, Al-Qiyamah, Imam Mahdi, Spirit, Sahasarara, kundalini, moksa, human evolution, eternal life, and so forth. Not only that, but the Comforter also completes Jesus' teachings.

All these topics are collectively vital and indispensable for the comprehension of the general public. Only detailed knowledge of these crucial issues, so dear to the hearts of seekers and believers, will bring forth the anticipated emancipation of humanity. The Advent and Message of Shri Mataji must be declared and explained in all its entirety. All forms of negativity working against that must be, like maggots, picked up to be exposed and destroyed. It does not matter who these maggots are.

Everything rests upon Truth now,

jagbir





THE APOCALYPSE OF THE SPIRIT-PARACLETE
The fulfillment of the promised divine eschatological instruction
“The original meaning of the word ‘apocalypse’, derived from the Greek apokalypsis, is in fact not the cataclysmic end of the world, but an ‘unveiling’, or ‘revelation’, a means whereby one gains insight into the present.” (Kovacs, 2013, 2) An apocalypse (Greek: apokalypsis meaning “an uncovering”) is in religious contexts knowledge or revelation, a disclosure of something hidden, “a vision of heavenly secrets that can make sense of earthly realities.” (Ehrman 2014, 59)
Shri Mataji
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi (1923-2011) was Christian by birth, Hindu by marriage, and Paraclete by duty.
“The Paraclete will come (15:26; 16:7, 8, 13) as Jesus has come into the world (5:43; 16:28; 18:37)... The Paraclete will take the things of Christ (the things that are mine, ek tou emou) and declare them (16:14-15). Bishop Fison describes the humility of the Spirit, 'The true Holy Spirit of God does not advertise Herself: She effaces Herself and advertises Jesus.' ...
It is by the outgoing activity of the Spirit that the divine life communicates itself in and to the creation. The Spirit is God-in-relations. The Paraclete is the divine self-expression which will be and abide with you, and be in you (14:16-17). The Spirit's work is described in terms of utterance: teach you, didasko (14:26), remind you, hypomimnesko (14:26), testify, martyro (15:26), prove wrong, elencho (16:8), guide into truth, hodego (16:13), speak, laleo (16:13, twice), declare, anangello (16:13, 14, 15). The johannine terms describe verbal actions which intend a response in others who will receive (lambano), see (theoreo), or know (ginosko) the Spirit. Such speech-terms link the Spirit with the divine Word. The Spirit's initiatives imply God's personal engagement with humanity. The Spirit comes to be with others; the teaching Spirit implies a community of learners; forgetful persons need a prompter to remind them; one testifies expecting heed to be paid; one speaks and declares in order to be heard. The articulate Spirit is the correlative of the listening, Spirit-informed community.
The final Paraclete passage closes with a threefold repetition of the verb she will declare (anangello), 16:13-15. The Spirit will declare the things that are to come (v.13), and she will declare what is Christ's (vv. 14, 15). The things of Christ are a message that must be heralded...
The intention of the Spirit of truth is the restoration of an alienated, deceived humanity... The teaching role of the Paraclete tends to be remembered as a major emphasis of the Farewell Discourses, yet only 14:26 says She will teach you all things. (Teaching is, however, implied when 16:13-15 says that the Spirit will guide you into all truth, and will speak and declare.) Franz Mussner remarks that the word used in 14:26, didaskein, "means literally 'teach, instruct,' but in John it nearly always means to reveal.” (Stevick 2011, 292-7)
Stephen E. Witmer, Divine instruction in Early Christianity   
F. B. Meyer, Love to the Utmost Robert Kysar, John, the Maverick Gospel 
Danny Mahar, Aramaic Made EZ Lucy Reid, She Changes Everything
David Fleer, Preaching John's Gospel: The World It Imagines Berard L. Marthaler, The Creed: The Apostolic Faith in Contemporary Theology
George Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament In Spirit and Truth, Benny Thettayil
Jesus and His Own: A Commentary on John 13-17 Marianne Meye Thompson, The God of the Gospel of John
Eric Eve, The Jewish Context of Jesus' Miracles D. R. Sadananda, The Johannine Exegesis of God: an exploration into the Johannine understanding of God
Michael Welker, God the Spirit Georg Strecker, Theology of the New Testament
Tricia Gates Brown, Spirit in the writings of John Michael Welker, The work of the Spirit: pneumatology and Pentecostalism
Robert Kysar, Voyages with John: Charting the Fourth Gospel John F. Moloney, The Gospel of John
Harvey Cox, The Future of Faith Robert Kysar, John
Robert E. Picirilli, The Randall House Bible Commentary George Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament 
“The teaching of the Paraclete, as the continuation of Jesus' teaching, must also be understood as the fulfillment of the promise of eschatological divine instruction.”
Stephen E. Witmer, Divine instruction in Early Christianity

“Jesus therefore predicts that God will later send a human being to Earth to take up the role defined by John .i.e. to be a prophet who hears God's words and repeats his message to man.”
M. Bucaille, The Bible, the Qur'n, and Science

“And when Jesus foreannounced another Comforter, He must have intended a Person as distinct and helpful as He had been.”
F. B. Meyer, Love to the Utmost

“The Paraclete has a twofold function: to communicate Christ to believers and, to put the world on trial.”
Robert Kysar, John The Meverick Gospel

“But She—the Spirit, the Paraclete...—will teach you everything.”
Danny Mahar, Aramaic Made EZ)

“Grammatical nonsense but evidence of the theological desire to defeminize the Divine.”
Lucy Reid, She Changes Everything

“The functions of the Paraclete spelled out in verses 13-15... are all acts of open and bold speaking in the highest degree.”
David Fleer, Preaching John's Gospel

“The reaction of the world to the Paraclete will be much the same as the world's reaction was to Jesus.”
Berard L. Marthaler, The Creed: The Apostolic Faith in Contemporary Theology

Bultmann calls the “coming of the Redeemer an 'eschatological event,' 'the turning-point of the ages.”
G. Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament

“The Paraclete equated with the Holy Spirit, is the only mediator of the word of the exalted Christ.”
Benny Thettayil, In Spirit and Truth

“The divine Paraclete, and no lessor agency, must show the world how wrong it was about him who was in the right.”
Daniel B. Stevick , Jesus and His Own: A Commentary on John 13-17

Stephen Smalley asserts that “The Spirit-Paraclete ... in John's Gospel is understood as personal, indeed, as a person.”
Marianne Thompson, The God of the Gospel of John

“The Messiah will come and the great age of salvation will dawn (for the pious).”
Eric Eve, The Jewish context of Jesus' Miracles

“The remembrance is to relive and re-enact the Christ event, to bring about new eschatological decision in time and space.”
Daniel Rathnakara Sadananda, The Johannine Exegesis of God

“The Spirit acts in such an international situation as the revealer of 'judgment' on the powers that rule the world.”
Michael Welker, God the Spirit

The Paraclete's “Appearance means that sin, righteousness, and judgment will be revealed.”
Georg Strecker, Theology of the New Testament

“While the Spirit-Paraclete is the true broker, the brokers they rely on are impostors.”
T. G. Brown, Spirit in the writings of John

“The pneumatological activity ... of the Paraclete ... may most helpfully be considered in terms of the salvific working of the hidden Spirit.”
Michael Welker, The work of the Spirit

“The pneuma is the peculiar power by which the word becomes the words of eternal life.”
Robert Kysar, Voyages with John

“The gift of peace, therefore, is intimately associated with the gift of the Spirit-Paraclete.”
Francis J. Moloney, The Gospel of John

“This utopian hope, even when modestly expressed, links Jesus and the prophets to a much wider history of human longing.”
Harvey Cox, The Future of Faith

“Because of the presence of the Paraclete in the life of the believer, the blessings of the end-times—the eschaton—are already present.”
Robert Kysar, John

“They are going, by the Holy Spirit's power, to be part of the greatest miracle of all, bringing men to salvation.”
R. Picirilli, The Randall House Bible Commentary

“The Kingdom of God stands as a comprehensive term for all that the messianic salvation included... is something to be sought here and now (Mt. 6:33) and to be received as children receive a gift (Mk. 10:15 = Lk. 18:16-17).”
G. Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament


“But today is the day I declare that I am the one who has to save the humanity. I declare I am the one who is Adishakti, who is the Mother of all the Mothers, who is the Primordial Mother, the Shakti, the desire of God, who has incarnated on this Earth to give its meaning to itself; to this creation, to human beings and I am sure through My Love and patience and My powers I am going to achieve it.

I was the one who was born again and again. But now in my complete form and complete powers I have come on this Earth not only for salvation of human beings, not only for their emancipation, but for granting them the Kingdom of Heaven, the joy, the bliss that your Father wants to bestow upon you.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
December 2, 1979—London, UK


“I am the one about which Christ has talked... I am the Holy Spirit who has incarnated on this Earth for your realization.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
New York, USA—September 30, 1981


“Tell all the nations and tell all the people all over the Great Message that the Time of Resurrection is here. Now, at this time, and that you are capable of doing it.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
Cowley Manor Seminar, UK—July 31, 1982


“This is the transformation that has worked, of which Christ has talked, Mohammed Sahib has talked, everybody has talked about this particular time when people will get transformed.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Chistmas Puja, Ganapatipule, India—25 December 1997


“The Resurrection of Christ has to now be collective Resurrection. This is what is Mahayoga. Has to be the collective Resurrection.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Easter Puja, London, UK—11 April 1982


“Today, Sahaja Yaga has reached the state of Mahayoga, which is en-masse evolution manifested through it. It is this day�s Yuga Dharma. It is the way the Last Judgement is taking place. Announce it to all the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world, so that nobody misses the blessings of the divine to achieve their meaning, their absolute, their Spirit.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
MAHA AVATAR, ISSUE 1, JUL-SEP 1980 (Date and place unknown)


“The main thing that one has to understand is that the time has come for you to get all that is promised in the scriptures, not only in the Bible but all all the scriptures of the world. The time has come today that you have to become a Christian, a Brahmin, a Pir, through your Kundalini awakening only. There is no other way. And that your Last Judgment is also now.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi


“You see, the Holy Ghost is the Mother. When they say about the Holy Ghost, She is the Mother... Now, the principle of Mother is in every, every scripture — has to be there. Now, the Mother's character is that She is the one who is the Womb, She is the one who is the Mother Earth, and She is the one who nourishes you. She nourishes us. You know that. And this Feminine thing in every human being resides as this Kundalini.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Radio Interview Oct 01 1983—Santa Cruz, USA


“It is the Mother who can awaken the Kundalini, and that the Kundalini is your own Mother. She is the Holy Ghost within you, the Adi Shakti, and She Herself achieves your transformation. By any talk, by any rationality, by anything, it cannot be done.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi


“She is your pure Mother. She is the Mother who is individually with you. Forget your concepts, and forget your identifications. Please try to understand She is your Mother, waiting for ages to give you your real birth. She is the Holy Ghost within you. She has to give you your realization, and She's just waiting and waiting to do it.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Public Program Mar 22 1981—Sydney, Australia


“The Kundalini is your own mother; your individual mother. And She has tape-recorded all your past and your aspirations. Everything! And She rises because She wants to give you your second birth. But She is your individual mother. You don't share Her with anybody else. Yours is a different, somebody else's is different because the tape-recording is different. We say She is the reflection of the Adi Shakti who is called as Holy Ghost in the Bible.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Press Conference July 08 1999—London, UK

The Great Goddess is both wholly transcendent and fully immanent: beyond space and time, she is yet embodied within all existent beings; without form as pure, infinite consciousness (cit) ... She is the universal, cosmic energy known as Sakti, and the psychophysical, guiding force designated as the Kundalini (Serpent Power) resident within each individual. She is eternal, without origin or birth, yet she is born in this world in age after age, to support those who seek her assistance. Precisely to provide comfort and guidance to her devotees, she presents herself in the Devi Gita to reveal the truths leading both to worldly happiness and to the supreme spiritual goals: dwelling in her Jeweled Island and mergence into her own perfect being.” (Brown, 1998, 2)





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