"Learning who Shri Mataji was i was completely filled with joy"
Dear jagbir,
I felt compelled to write to you after i just visited adishakti.org
after some months now when i realized your message on the frontpage.
First let me introduce myself, my name is Xxxxx and i live in Xxxxx
and i am Xx and got my realization X years back. Anyways I knew
about your site for quite some time and really enjoyed all the
articles although didnt get a chance to go in to deep into it as it
is quite in depth.
Let me explain what happened when i read your article tonight..
Tonight i was taking a break from studying for exams when i decided
to looked on video.google.com and then was curious if i could find
any movies from Martin Luther King Jr, but ended up finding an old
movie made on Martin Luther depicting his life..it reminded me of
feeling that has been overcoming me for the last 2 years when i just
want to stand completely on two feet and not be afraid to do
Mother's work in full force with or without anyone. Afterwards i
decided to go back to this article i was writing where i wanted to
propose an experiment for my Xxxx theory where i could use sahaja
yoga to prove the existence of God through vibrations. When i came
to point when i realized i need religious historical background i
decided to go to your website when i read the front page.
I read everything from the front page, to the great blessing to
mankind link and also the yahoo forum. First of all my heart goes
out to you, with all u have done and i sincerely am shocked at the
whole thing...but then also not so shocked. It really stirred me up
when i read it, because i read about the children and thought that
it was really interesting, but wondered why no one had ever in the
collective mentioned it. Although i admit i didnt know the full
story about it until tonight, i only knew that they had all these
really amazing descriptions of Shri Mataji.
I must admit over the course of the 4 years i was so excited to have
my realization first of all as i knew when my kundalini completely
came up i knew i found what i hungered for. Then learning who Shri
Mataji was i was completely filled with joy. That was within my
first 6 months... afterwards i began spending much time with the
collective and found it to be a very dishearting and felt very alone
especially when i saw all the judgementalness, politics, ritualism,
and so many other horrid things. At the time i was so happy that i
now knew The HOLY SPIRIT! and that made me so happy and i wanted to
tell it to the whole world, but i myself was a bit shy and i need
find the strength inside me. When i met the collective it seemed
like they too were just as shy. Over the four years i have been
waiting for something to change, for people to change..but alas it
hasn't and over the years i have felt isolated, but at the same time
gaining my courage to make a stand. Giving realization to hundreds,
writing papers, even writing to authors like"conversations with
god"to get this very simple message that the Adi Shakti is here
right now, and the last judgement is happening. Although i was
taught to propagate Mother's message as meditation/chakra thing like
u said, but all the while felt like this wasn't enough especially
when i would meet the deep seekers. It was like their eyes were
telling me"don't read from the prompter..give me what i need to
hear.”
I recently decided to tell my parents, who are not doing SY. My mom
who is very involved in the Catholic church and my father who is a
seeker, but not going to church anymore. They were very concerned
but didn't agree nor disagree, but at the same time i realized how
good it felt to say who Mother was after 4 long years of feeling
trapped within my own house. Finally after seeing Mother this year
in LA at her home i felt upon returning so much of an urge to have
the courage that Mother is who she is and I can't change it, so i
don't have to be afraid of anything any longer. There's really so
many things i could write, but i am a bit tired. After reading all
of these things with leaders i can very much empathize after dealing
with all the beauracracy after 4 years that has made me depressed
and trapped, but seeing what you have gone through it makes me feel
much more courageous!
I am really curious if you got any more confirmation that Mother has
said we should tell her divine message? What has happened to your
children since all this has happened? If there's anything else that
can help inspire me to go out and spread Mother's message to please
send it my way.
love
X.........
>
—- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com," jagbir singh"
>
> I am really curious if you got any more confirmation that Mother
> has said we should tell her divine message? What has happened to
> your children since all this has happened? If theres anything else
> that can help inspire me to go out and spread Mother's message to
> please send it my way.
>
Dear Xxxxxx,
i have two quotes that make it clear that SYs were supposed to
announce both Her incarnation and the Divine Message of the Last
Judgment and Resurrection.
"Tell all the nations and tell all the people, all over, the great
message - that the time of Resurrection is Here. Now, at this time,
and that you all are capable of doing it. You are the ones who are
capable of manifesting God's joy on this earth. You are the flutes
which are going to play the Melody of God. I am doing all this to
perfect you to be the 'most' beautiful instruments of God. Like the
ship is built, is brought to the sea, tried, and found out to be
sea-worthy to sail out, when you know everything about the ship,
everything about the sea, with complete freedom and wisdom, you have
to sail now. Not afraid of any storms or any gales or any typhoons
because now all you 'know'. Your job is to cross through.”
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
(Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 28 September 1996)
“I am the Adi Shakti. I am the One who has come on this Earth for
the first time in this form to do this tremendous task . The more
you understand this the better it would be. You will change
tremendously. I knew I'll have to say that openly one day and we
have said it. But now it is you people who have to prove it that I
am that!"
Shri Adi-Shakti Devi
Sydney, Australia — March 21, 1983
There is another quote where She tells SYs that if the Truth is not
told openly people will say they never knew about it. i don't have
the quote but without question She is reminding SYs the consequences
of keeping quiet. i believe She could not press the issue as the SY
leadership were very reluctant.
In 1994 She told SYs that evidence of Her incarnation will be given
by personalities outside the SY organization. Thus all they needed
to do was to just announce Her advent and Message. Again the SY
leadership/followers balked and just did not have the courage to
even admit publicly that She is the Adi Shakti.
You asked: "What has happened to your children since all this has
happened?”
Well, they are just growing up like normal children - PS2, X-Box,
friends, movies, pizzas, studies, skating, swimming, window shopping
etc. i believe they are growing up in a healthy, balanced way free
from any conditioning whatsoever.
You asked: "If there's anything else that can help inspire me to go
out and spread Mother's message to please send it my way.”
i will strongly advise you to first learn to stand up for the Truth,
before standing on it. Apparently you are uncomfortable that your
email was made public despite your identity being masked. So rid
yourself of this baseless SY fear and conditioning if you sincerely
want to spread Mother's message.
You said privately: "I read the forum i see it is involved in much
criticism of others, and taking sides. Which is not a good place for
me to be apart of it. Please i ask for your respect, i do not wish
to be part of that aspect. My ascent is my own i do not wish for
others to judge me and put me in compartments, based on what your
forum is speaking about.”
You are right about the criticism as i am against hypocrites who
pretend/lie that Sahaja Yoga is a form of meditation based on the
subtle system teachings of Shri Mataji. If SYs do not believe or
cannot admit that it is much more than that i am guilty of excessive
criticism. But i know for a fact that my conscience is much clearer
than most SYs since i started openly declaring Shri Mataji's advent
and Message. i just have no idea how subtle system SYs can believe
they are spreading the Truth. And unlike most SYs, i have been catch-
free for years. Has this anything to do with the Adi Shakti pleased
with my dharma, sincerity and conscience?
So nobody is taking sides here ........ unless you consider siding
with Truth driving a wedge. If that is the case then i will only
drive in deeper and harder. So don't sit on the fence and wait for
the SY leadership to announce that www.adishakti.org is kosher.
Learn to be your own master and study the meaning of"dharma"In
detail. i will help SYs jump-start this long overdue transformation
by expalining about"Satyagraha":
"Satyagraha (Sanskrit: satyagraha) is the philosophy of nonviolent
resistance most famously employed by Mohandas Gandhi in forcing an
end to the British Raj and also against apartheid in South Africa.
Satya is Sanskrit for Truth, and Agraha is used to describe an
effort, endeavor. The term itself may be construed to mean any
effort to discover, discern, obtain or apply Truth. The word is
originally Sanskrit, and has been borrowed into many Indian
languages including Hindi and Gujarati.
Satyagraha is a relentless search for truth and a determination to
reach truth.
It is a force that works silently and apparently slowly. In reality,
there is no force in the world that is so direct or so swift in
working.
Satyagraha literally means insistence on truth. This insistence arms
the votary with matchless power. This power or force is connoted by
the word satyagraha. Satyagraha, to be genuine, may be offered
against parents, against one's wife or one's children, against
rulers, against fellow-citizens, even against the whole world.”**
So Xxxxxx, initiating Satyagraha against hypocrisy and dereliction
of duty towards humanity by the SY leadership/followers is a great
blessing whose roots are firmly embedded in past lives lived
unwaveringly serving Truth and Dharma. It is a very unpleasant job
and few will volunteer being the night-soil carriers of humanity.
Thus it is so easy for the SY leadership to distract their followers
by claiming that i stink. i happily agree due to the all-pervading
intoxicating, addictive aroma of Satyagraha.
Jai Ganapathi,
jagbir
** Wikipedia
—- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com," jagbir singh"
>
> So nobody is taking sides here ....... unless you consider siding
> with Truth driving a wedge. If that is the case then i will only
> drive in deeper and harder. So don't sit on the fence and wait for
> the SY leadership to announce that www.adishakti.org is kosher.
> Learn to be your own master and study the meaning of"dharma"In
> detail.
>
Dharma
"Dharma (Sanskrit) or Dhamma (Pali) means Natural Law or Reality, and
with respect to its significance for spirituality and religion might
be considered the Way of the Higher Truths. Dharma forms the basis
for philosophies, beliefs and practices originating in India. The
four main ones are Hinduism (Sanatana Dharma), Buddhism, Jainism,
and Sikhism, all of whom retain the centrality of Dharma in their
teachings. In these traditions, beings that live in harmony with
Dharma proceed more quickly toward Dharma Yukam, Moksha, Nirvana
(personal liberation). Dharma also refers to the teachings and
doctrines of the various founders of the traditions, such as Gautama
Buddha in Buddhism and Mahavira in Jainism. As the religious and
moral doctrine of the rights and duties of each individual, Dharma
can refer generally to religious duty, and also mean social order,
right conduct, or simply virtue....
From the Atharvaveda and in Classical Sanskrit, the stem is
thematic, dhárma, and in Pali, it takes the form dhamma. Monier-
Williams attempts to gesture at the semantic field of the spiritual
and religious meanings of the term with"virtue, morality, religion,
religious merit.” It being used in most or all philosophies and
religions of Indian origin, the"dharmic faiths"Including Hinduism
(Sanatana Dharma), Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism, it is difficult to
provide a single concise definition for Dharma. The word has a long
and varied history and straddles a complex set of meanings and
interpretations. Dharma also is practiced in the Surat Shabda Yoga
traditions.
Rene Guenon, father of the 20th century school of perennial
philosophy, said:
It [dharma] is, so to speak, the essential nature of a being,
comprising the sum of its particular qualities or characteristics,
and determining, by virtue of the tendencies or dispositions it
implies, the manner in which this being will conduct itself, either
in a general way or in relation to each particular circumstance. The
same idea may be applied, not only to a single being, but also to an
organized collectivity, to a species, to all the beings included in
a cosmic cycle or state of existence, or even to the whole order of
the Universe; it then, at one level or another, signifies conformity
with the essential nature of beings... (from Guenon's"Introduction to
the Study of Hindu Doctrines")
David Frawley, an expert on Hindu philosophy and religion, comments
on Dharma as follows:
A universal tradition has room for all faiths and all religious and
spiritual practices regardless of the time or country of their
origin. Yet it places religious and spiritual teachings in their
appropriate place relative to the ultimate goal of Self-realization,
to which secondary practices are subordinated. Sanatan Dharma also
recognizes that the greater portion of human religious aspirations
has always been unknown, undefined and outside of any
institutionalized belief. Sanatan Dharma thereby gives reverence to
individual spiritual experience over any formal religious doctrine.
Wherever the Universal Truth is manifest; there is Sanatan Dharma—
whether it is in a field of religion, art or science, or in the life
of a person or community. Wherever the Universal Truth is not
recognized, or is scaled down or limited to a particular group, book
or person, even if done so in the name of God, there Sanatan Dharma
ceases to function, whatever the activity is called.”
Dharma (Wikipedia)
Note: In case WCASY, SY leadership and followers of the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion miss the point here it it: "Wherever the Universal Truth is not recognized, or is scaled down or limited to a particular group, book or person, even if done so in the name of God, there Sanatan Dharma ceases to function, whatever the activity is called.”
jagbir
—- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com," Violet"
Dear All,
i was there in 1994 at Sydney Airport when Shri Mataji gave the clarion call and
summons for Sahaja Yogis to declare Her Message and Identity openly in the form
of an Announcement Worldwide. The word"Announcement"Was much discussed about
in the mid 1990's. However, the political agenda of Sahaja Yogi Politicians has
superceded and taken precedence over Shri Mataji's sincerest wish and desire for
SYs in the organisation to Openly Proclaim Her Message and Identity.
i wonder if anyone has remembered about the"Two Stages of Sahaja Yoga"that SM
talked about? Or... has this been erased from collective memory too?
Shri Mataji indeed described Two Stages of SY and they are as follows:
Stage 1: The First Stage we all know... which is what SY leadership/followers
are in.
Stage 2: The Second Stage was to go all out and tell All Nations Her Message and
Her Identity. It was to be spearheaded with an OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT. Then SYs
were to give Her Message of the Resurrection (giving details of Her Identity as
well) to all the Nations of the World.
According to SM, this Stage was very important for world transformation. We
already had all the knowledge; now we were supposed to tackle it from the
Spiritual Perspective of Eschatological Evidence about Her Incarnation, etc.
(Maybe SYs have forgotten about this Second Stage that SM talked about, due to
the Political Agenda of the leaders who did not want to do this, and still do
not want to do this to date... in fact discourage it!)
The Second Stage (as Jagbir has quoted precisely)... was given by Shri Mataji
with the Words:
"Tell all the nations and tell all the people, all over, the great message -
that the time of Resurrection is Here. Now, at this time, and that you all are
capable of doing it. You are the ones who are capable of manifesting God's joy
on this earth. You are the flutes which are going to play the Melody of God. I
am doing all this to perfect you to be the 'most' beautiful instruments of God.
Like the ship is built, is brought to the sea, tried, and found out to be
sea-worthy to sail out, when you know everything about the ship, everything
about the sea, with complete freedom and wisdom, you have to sail now. Not
afraid of any storms or any gales or any typhoons because now all you 'know'.
Your job is to cross through.”
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
These Words of SM are the Challenge and Essence of the Meaning of Stage 2 of
Sahaja Yoga. Obviously, according to SM's description, Stage 2 was not about
Meditation Classes and Clearing and Cleansing Workshops. (That had already been
mastered by SYs!)
Rather... it is very clear that She is referring to the Announcement of Her
Message/Incarnation that was to be forthcoming... and was very important to
World Spiritual Transformation, so that people would know that the Holy Spirit,
Ruh of Allah, The Great Mother, the Ruauch, the Shekinah, the Aykaa Mayee, Mai
Treya and the Adi Shakti had incarnated!
Shri Mataji obviously knew that it was difficult for SY leadership/followers to
take up Her Challenge. That is why She encouraged us to"cross through"that
psychological barrier and take the courage to do it. That is why She encouraged
us to"be seaworthy"to do this Great Task. (As already stated... we were
already experts at that time in Meditation Classes and Clearing and Cleansing
Workshops. That is therefore NOT what SM was referring to in Stage 2...
folks!!!)
NO! What we needed to be"seaworthy about"Was to OPENLY TAKE COURAGE AND
ANNOUNCE HER MESSAGE AND INCARNATION TO THE WORLD!
That is implicit in Shri Mataji's challenge"TO BE SEAWORTHY"And to"NOW SAIL!"
You see... SY Organisation had an Official Announcement of the Advent and
Message of the Holy Spirit to give to the world. That would give the impetus and
reason for a"SAIL"In the first place, and preparation would be needed for this
sail. We had to"make our ship completely seaworthy"for this"SAIL.”
However, this particular"SAILING VOYAGE"has not been taken at all by SY
leadership/followers. Stage 2 is happening from outside of the organisation of
SY, because SY leadership/followers were"just not up to Stage 2 of Sahaja
Yoga!"
It is a challenge to you to do this therefore... if not collectively; then
individually. Enter Stage 2... as Shri Mataji encouraged:
“Now, at this time, and that you all are capable of doing it.”
So... SYs you are all capable of giving Her Message of Resurrection to all the
nations and all the people. Please do not shirk this duty any longer. You are in
a great disadvantage because SY leadership have not announced Her Message and
Incarnation officially. Nevertheless, each SY needs to take this admonition of
SM on their own shoulders now. If you cannot do it within the Organisation of
SY, you may have to be part of the Movement of Love of Sahaja Yoga that is now
proclaiming Her Message and Identity from without the organisation of SY. You
may have to become part of the Movement of SY that SM called"Stage 2 of Sahaja
Yoga.”
This can still be accomplished from within, but i think it is very difficult
now, as the SY Politicians do not believe it is important to commence Stage 2.
So... just like us, if you are really sincere about follow Shri Mataji's wishes,
you may be forced to do so from outside the Organisation of Sahaja Yoga... just
in order to get this job done without political interference!
But then... all who do so... can take GREAT CONSOLATION from the fact that in
1994 at Sydney Airport, Shri Mataji said that if Her Message is not given from
inside the organisation of SY that She has people that will give it from Outside
the Organisation of Sahaja Yoga! (Again... Meditation Classes and Clearing and
Cleansing Workshops were rampant. Therefore these aspects were not the"Message"
Shri Mataji was referring too. Please be aware of this fact, especially if you
are a devoted follower of the Adi Shakti within (the Holy Spirit within)!
Jai Shri Mataji!
violet
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