Secret taught by living Jesus: "If you know yourself then you know the Kingdom of God."

From: "jagbir singh" <adishakti_org@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:18 pm
Subject: Re: Secret taught by living Jesus: "If you know yourself then you know the Kingdom of God."


To all on Christmas Eve,

i came across an article today and reflected on it's deep spiritual
truth:


"Self-realization, a fact of experience

Enunciation of the nature of the Atman (soul, Self) forms the
central theme of the Bhagavad Gita and the Upanishads. A common
feature of their approach is that this abstract spiritual knowledge
is conveyed through a dialogue between the Guru (preceptor) and the
Sishya (syudent). In the Bhagavad Gita for instance, the teaching
unfolded in the battlefield when Arjuna expressed his despondency to
Lord Krishna. The Lord who had till then been his charioteer assumed
the role of his teacher.

In the second chapter is the Lord's teaching of the nature of the
Atman to convince Arjuna about its eternal nature so that he would
not grieve over death which was inevitable in the war. The Lord
pointed out to him, "There is no permanent existence for the
destructible bodies. The soul, on the contrary never ceases to be."
Only the wise understands the real nature of these two. Understand
that the soul which pervades, penetrates and comprehends is
imperishable and not being liable to destruction, nothing can cause
its destruction."

In his lecture on the Bhagavad Gita Swami Paramarthananda said that
consciousness was intrinsic to the soul and it was external and
could exist independently of matter. This is a very important
feature of Vedanta which holds consciousness as the basis of
existence. This is opposed to the predominant view of science which
postulates matter as the fundamental principle and consciousness as
adventitious to matter. So according to Vedanta matter is only a
temporary phenomena.

Consciousness is always the experiencer and cannot become the object
of experience. Further it is not subject to growth and decay; and is
not a doer (akarta) or an enjoyer (abhokta). So it can never be
touched by Karma. Birth and death which take place according to the
dictates of Karma thus does not afflict the soul.

This is the reason why the Lord has said that it was only a wise
person (Jnani) who could truly know the nature of the Self. What is
the Jnani's understanding? He has the knowledge of the Atman as the
eternal consciousness which is indestructible, changeless, birthless
and decayless. This knowledge takes place in two stages.

When the student learns this from his teacher he first identifies
himself with his mind and body and is under the assumption that he
has an Atman which is eternal, unlike his body. By internalizing
this knowledge through constant meditation the student identifies
himself with the Self and understands that his body is adventitious
to it, which is the result of Self-realization. The whole process is
not just verbalization but a fact of experience." (Pragati, Vol.21,
No.12 - Dec. 2005)


ad●ven●ti●tious

1. Arising from an external source or occurring in an unusual place
or manner; extrinsic.
2. Occurring accidentally or spontaneously, not caused by heredity.
3. Adventitial.

Source: The American Heritage® Stedman's Medical Dictionary
Copyright © 2002, 2001, 1995 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published
by Houghton Mifflin Company.


Main Entry: ad●ven●ti●tious

1 a : arising sporadically or in other than the usual location <an
adventitious part in embryonic development> b : occurring
spontaneously or accidentally in a country or region to which it is
not native <an adventitious insect>
2 : ADVENTITIAL
3 : not congenital <adventitious deafness> —ad●ven●ti●tious●ly
adverb

Source: Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-
Webster, Inc.



The more I read the article the more it made me realize that Self-
realization is a subject extremely difficult to understand. It takes
time to realize the Atman as the eternal consciousness which is
indestructible, changeless, birthless and decayless. This knowledge
takes place in two stages.

From the physical Shri Mataji we learnt to identify ourselves with
our mind and body, still under the assumption that we have an Atman
which is eternal, unlike our bodies. By internalizing this knowledge
through the Sahasrara where She resides the Divine Mother directs us
to identify ourselves with the Self and understand that this body
is adventitious to it. The whole process of Self-realization is not
just verbalization but a fact of inner experience.

We can truly learn from those who have experienced both their
physical and spiritual self. The spiritual self within our physical
bodies is indeed made up of consciousness. Matter (physical body) is
only a temporary phenomena whereas consciousness (the soul) is
eternal. Kash, Arwin and Lalita have experienced thousands of times
that we are eternal souls (consciousness) living in a physical body
(matter). (Those SYs who cannot understand should not protest in
ignorance because Vedanta not only supports such experiences but
enable us to comprehend better this really difficult subject.)

Consciousness is indeed intrinsic to the soul and it is external and
can exist independently of matter. This is a very important feature
of Vedanta which holds consciousness as the basis of existence. This
is opposed to the predominant view of science which postulates
matter as the fundamental principle and consciousness as
adventitious to matter.

On this Christmas eve may this central teaching of the Sanatana
Dharma enlighten all. If you want to understand what Jesus said, you
have to recognize yourself. You have to know yourself, know who you
are. It begins with a saying about the Kingdom of God, "if you seek
the Kingdom of God in the sky then the birds will precede you. And
if you seek it in the sea, then the fish will precede you, but the
Kingdom is in you. And if you know yourself then you know the
Kingdom of God." "But if you don't know yourself, you live in
poverty." And poverty is understood as the ignorance of a life in
its physical existence. Knowledge is understood to be the knowledge
of one's divine origin, of the fact that one has come from the
Kingdom. We are on this earth only in a sojourn. Learn from the
Divine Mother that all Holy Scriptures, religions and messengers
urge us to attain Self-realization. The preachers in churches,
mosques, synagogues, temples and gurdwaras have no idea what it is
all about.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays,


jagbir





>
> From: "jagbir singh" <adishakti_org@y...>
> Date: Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:51 am
> Subject: Secret taught by living Jesus: "If you know yourself
> then you know the Kingdom of God."
>
> —- In shriadishakti@yahoogroups.com, "jagbir singh"
> <adishakti_org@y...> wrote:
> >
> > On December 9, 1996, at 5:45 a.m. Kash was again asked about his
> > previously mistaken 'out-of-body' belief. He still insisted
> > that it is impossible to believe that one is within the body —
> > even after being enlightened by the Great Adi Shakti that
> > everything is within the Sahasrara!
> >
> > In other words, despite his misconception being corrected by the
> > Great Supreme Spirit, he still could not feel or remember this
> > fact whenever he entered his own Thousand-Petal Lotus. He still
> > thought he left his body and went out into the Universe to the
> > place humans call the Kingdom of God. According to Kash, it is
> > impossible for one to know that they are in their own
> > Sahasraras. It is impossible to feel the Kingdom of God within
> > the human body.
> >
> > It is just impossible to comprehend, while being within the
> > Sahasrara, that this gross physical world exists outside! In
> > other words, on Earth it is impossible to comprehend the subtle
> > spiritual Sahasrara within. It is just as difficult within the
> > Sahasrara to comprehend that this gross physical Earth exists
> > without.
> >
> > On October 9, 1997, at 19.00 p.m. he was asked if the Spiritual
> > World was as real as this Earth, i.e., was it as tangible as
> > watching television, talking with his family and all the normal
> > activities that makes physical life so conscious and real. He
> > replied that not only is the Kingdom of God really real, just as
> > this physical world, but also "better, quieter and more
> > peaceful."
> >
>
>
>
> "One of these documents [found at Nag Hammadi] begins with the
> scribal note in the margin, "The Gospel According to Thomas." And
> the first sentence of that document says, "These are the secret
> words which the living Jesus taught and which Judas Thomas Didymos
> wrote down." And then they start a total of over 110 sayings, each
> introduced by "Jesus said...." ...
>
> Now what is typical about these sayings is that in each instance,
> these sayings want to say that if you want to understand what Jesus
> said, you have to recognize yourself. You have to know yourself,
> know who you are. It begins with a saying about the Kingdom of God,
> "if you seek the Kingdom of God in the sky then the birds will
> precede you. And if you seek it in the sea, then the fish will
> precede you, but the Kingdom is in you. And if you know yourself
> then you know the Kingdom of God." (The Kingdom of the Father, in
> fact, it always says in the gospel of Thomas. Normally the Kingdom
> of the Father, not the Kingdom of God.) "But if you don't know
> yourself, you live in poverty." And poverty is understood as the
> ignorance of a life in its physical existence. Knowledge is
> understood to be the knowledge of one's divine origin, of the fact
> that one has come from the Kingdom. That we are on this earth only
> in a sojourn....
>
> What does it mean really to know oneself? To know oneself is to
> have insight into one's own ultimate divine identity. You can go
> back to understand this to Greek models, which certainly
> exist. "Know yourself" is a very old Greek maxim... that is, you
> have to know that your own soul is divine, and then you know that
> you are immortal, whereas the body is the mortal part of human
> existence. Now this is radicalized in the Gospel of Thomas into
> saying that everything that is experienced physically and through
> sense perception, everything in this world that you can perceive
> in this way is nothing. It is, at best, chaos and, at worst, it
> doesn't even exist in reality. The only thing that really exists
> is your divine spirit or your divine soul, which is identical in
> its quality with God himself. And Jesus is the one who teaches
> that....
>
> When one truly knows oneself, one understands that one is divine,
> but also one understands that one is mortal. In such a way, you
> recognize that this mortality is really meaningless, as physical
> existence is meaningless. And therefore, death is no longer a
> problem, but death is a solution, because in death finally all
> this mortality will fall away, and the true self will be liberated
> to an independent existence that's no longer dependent on physical
> existence. And on everything that goes with physical existence,
> sickness and poverty and so on. And so physical existence is often
> described as poverty. But when you know yourself you are no longer
> in poverty."
>
> Helmut Koester, PBS and WGBH/FRONTLINE, 1998
> (Helmut Koester: John H. Morison Professor of New Testament Studies
> and Winn Professor of Ecclesiastical History Harvard Divinity
> School)
>
>
>


"So the fear of death is another nonsense people has. First time
when I started my work, everywhere they asked me what about death? I
said, just now you're living why are you asking what about death? So
many people ask me question what about death, why do you want to
know? I'll tell you about today, just now.

So there's another mad idea that we should know about our death
what's going to happen and whatever happen. Once you are dead you
are finished, you don't have to do anything after that. So what is
the use of knowing when you will die, what will happen to you,
whatever has to happen will happen. We never ask when we sleep what
will happen to me, do we? But this is permanent sleep and we worry
so much about it that we should know what will happen after death.
One has to die at the time whenever one has to die. Because whatever
is born has to be dead. But you do know that you have got eternal
life, you can never die.

Death is not this body disappearing, death is where you are
absolutely without any control of your soul life. Once you are a
realized soul you have all the control, all the powers, take your
soul wherever you feel like, to be born if you like, if you don't
like you will not be born. To be born with the people in the
families, in the communities wherever you like.

There are many great souls, I know, that have taken birth daringly
into societies which are very much I should say are in danger of
getting destroyed because of stupidity they do.

So this happening that we are afraid of death is absolutely absurd
for Sahaja Yogis. What is there to think even about your death. There
is nothing like death for you, because you have got eternal life. It
is not that you continue with your same body, you may go on changing
your dress. But you are living, you are aware and you know. Even if
this body is not there, you will be there, all the time, available
for Sahaja Yoga for anything that is to be done in the name of
reality. So you must know your position as eternal being, what is
your work, what is your idea, what you have to do.

So one has to get rid of this idea of death, because death doesn't
exist for you, it's finished. Moreover all such people who are afraid
of their death go on having insurances, this, that, all headaches you
see. And ultimately what happens, all these worldly things we leave
here and depart. There is, I don't think, anybody could carry even a
little dust with that soul which is departing.

But in your case, when you people are no more on this earth so
called. Then you don't carry all this material thing, because you've
already given up, you have no interest in them. You're not
materialistic. So your spirit is free and when you die is a very
simple thing that you feel very liberated, absolutely. And then you
feel your freedom, completely. And you can decide what you want to
do. It's all under your own guidance, your own desire, everything
works out. You don't feel that you have come out of your body, and
this is what should tell you that there should be no fear of death,
but on the contrary it should be welcomed. Because you will feel much
more liberated, much more at ease. You don't have other problems
that you have to in any case carry on in this world so called
because of your body. Now see, I have to take some medicines, I have
to take some vitamins, don't have to take anything. Don't need
anything. This body finished is a very good idea.

So troublesome it is you see, all the time. Despite the fact you may
say that I don't care for this body and all that. But this body won't
leave you. It's the most sticky thing we have is our body. So to
forget about death should be the easiest thing for you!"

The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi


From: "jagbir singh" <adishakti_org@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:37 am
Subject: Re: Secret taught by living Jesus: "If you know yourself then you know the Kingdom of God."

>
> In his lecture on the Bhagavad Gita Swami Paramarthananda said
> that consciousness was intrinsic to the soul and it was external
> and could exist independently of matter. This is a very important
> feature of Vedanta which holds consciousness as the basis of
> existence. This is opposed to the predominant view of science
> which postulates matter as the fundamental principle and
> consciousness as adventitious to matter. So according to Vedanta
> matter is only a temporary phenomena.
>
> Consciousness is always the experiencer and cannot become the
> object of experience. Further it is not subject to growth and
> decay; and is not a doer (akarta) or an enjoyer (abhokta). So it
> can never be touched by Karma. Birth and death which take place
> according to the dictates of Karma thus does not afflict the soul.
>

Those who are desirous of understanding this deep spiritual
knowledge must buy the "Upanishad Amrut", a 2 CD collection that is
priceless.

""Upanishad Amrut": 2 CD set. Hindi/English version.

'Upanishad Amrut' (Amrut means Nectar) is a distillation of the
essence embedded in the deeply spiritual thinking underlying
the 'Vedas'. The album contains recitations of shlokas (hymns) from
ten of the Upanishads in Sanskrit. Shankar Mahadevan and Dewaki
Pandit have rendered the recitations, put to music by the Santoor
maestro, Pandit Shivkumar Sharma. After each shloka recitation, the
underlying philosophy and meaning is explained by his Holiness Swami
Chidanandji Maharaj, President of the Divine Life Society. His
explanations have been presented in two versions, Hindi and English,
to capture a wider audience. Musical accompanists: Pandit Bhawani
Shankar - Pakhawaj, Dhruba Ghosh - Sarangi, Rakesh Chaurasia -
Flute, Indrajit Kumar Sharma - Keyboard.
Features:

VOLUME 1 - Total Duration 53:34 min

Asato ma sada gamaya

Isavasyam idam sarvam

Yan manasa na manute yena

Uttishthata jagrata prapya

Sa yathema nadayah

Nayam-atma bala-hinena

VOLUME 2 - Total Duration 44:55 min

Nantah-prajanam na bahis-prajanam

Yato vacho nivartante

Esa Brahmaisa Indra esa Prajapatirete

Sa ya esho nima aitadatmyam

Brahma va idamagara"

http://www.sonarupa.co.uk/itm00418.htm


i did recommend these double CDs a year or two ago but now, after
having read the post below, am convinced are indispensible for those
who want to attain the much deeper and difficult knowledge of Self-
realization. Just get hold of these two CDs and listen to them for
the rest of your lives because Self-realization is much more than
what SYs generally understand. It is only when you know the nature
of Consciousness (Shakti within) will you truly, over many years,
slowly discover and realize your own divine nature too. It is very
difficult to sustain daily attention on the Spirit and that is why
regular listening of this excellent CD, with fantastic music to
match, is necessary. Please buy this CD and i guarantee you will
benefit in mind, body and soul. Pleeeeaaassseeee purchase it at any
cost because only if you know yourself will you know the Kingdom of
God (Brahman/Shakti in Sahasrara) within.

Jai Shri Mataji,



jagbir






 

 

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