Shri Mataji told that special personalities from Montreal, Canada would give evidence of Her incarnation
Violet Tubb, Oct 4, 2006
> —- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com, "Violet" wrote:
>
> I now have something of interest to tell you... Jagbir... as well.
> Only it is such a vague memory, that I can only give an indication
> of it. I will tell what I can vaguely remember: -
>
> I recall Shri Mataji telling in person because I heard Her speak it
> and (I can't exactly remember the venue), but it was in Sydney,
> Australia somewhere, and it was either the third-last or the
> second-last major visit to Australia. The date therefore was
> between 1993-1995-6).
>
> Anyway, She told the group of Sahaja Yogis that there were two
> "special personalities" who either would be born or were to be
> born in Montreal, Canada (I can't remember which it was)... so
> please bear with me on that account. I think She said something
> about them being children at the time, or one was born, and the
> other 'yet to be born'. (I just can't remember which it is.)
>
> (Btw. the reason I remember the place as being Montreal, Canada,
> is because I come from Canada too, and I agreed wholeheartedly
> that Canada should be so blessed to have such "special
> personalities" born there, and I visualised this in my mind,
> as being Montreal, Canada at the time, and pondered on that, and
> felt very happy for the country of my birth... being blessed too.)
>
> In any case, according to Shri Mataji, their incarnation (of these
> two) would be that they are "special personalities" which would
> give a great blessing to mankind because they would confirm Her
> (Shri Mataji's Incarnation). I will even go as far as saying that
> Shri Mataji might have said that they too, were some kind of a
> special incarnation, but I am not sure... but I think that was
> what Shri Mataji was saying. (It seemed like that to "me", anyway,
> but I could have misunderstood Her; it could be that by
> saying "special personality", I only understood it "myself" as some
> kind of special incarnation).
>
> She also said that they were yet to grow up and that we would not
> really hear much about them until they were older. She also said
> something about them not actually being in the Organisation of
> Sahaja Yoga itself, but they would be doing a separate job... a
> job about giving confirmation of Her Incarnation. Shri Mataji said
> that She only needed to mention this, and that there was nothing
> that we needed to do about that information, but that we would
> know about them at a later time.
>
> (Jagbir this memory came back because you revealed that your
> children are "Angels" according to the Revelations of the Shakti.
> That triggered this memory, which was there somewhere in the
> background since 1993-1996) but which I had hidden.
>
> What Shri Mataji told was most enigmatic for me. For a start,
> children who had yet to grow up; then people who were not even
> in the Organisation of SY; then confirming that Shri Mataji is an
> Incarnation...what is that all about? There were too many
> unknown factors, plus the fact that Shri Mataji was so casual
> about it, and said it was not necessary to do anything about that;
> that time would reveal everything.
>
> Can you blame me for being so vague, then, with all these what i
> would call quite 'wishy-washy' type of information, which seemed
> to have little relevance for me at the time... and then also being
> told that we do not need to have any concern about it. No wonder
> my memory is vague, and not only that, "special personalities" is
> not a thing Shri Mataji talked about really. She said everyone was
> special, so that was another reason, I never remembered this till
> you mentioned the word about Kash and Lalita being "Angels."
> That obviously triggered this "special personalities" memory that
> Shri Mataji told that day. I am sure most SY's won't remember
> either, because these seemed like such petty details at that time,
> and really meant very little to us Sahaja Yogis. There was no
> understanding by myself also. Who would understand such a
> thing?!)
>
> So... I thought I would tell you this, then... of what I have
> remembered about Shri Mataji having told us. I can tell you I would
> never have remembered this, if you had not told the "Angel" word.
>
Oct 4, 2006
Dear Violet,
The homepage of https://adishakti.org reads:
"In 1993 Shri Mataji disclosed at the Sydney International Airport, Australia that if Her Message (of the Last Judgment and Resurrection) is not given from within the Sahaja Yoga organization, She had people to give it from without. Her exact words by one of those who heard Her speaking at the airport: If SY's are not up to it
... (Her Message would be given) ...by people from outside of the Organization.
I feel there is a need for clarification of the issue - venue, time, place, what was said, other SYs present etc. - and would much appreciate if you can help me do so:
Violet, can you clarify the slight tension between Shri Mataji:
i) telling SYs they must announce Her Message or else outsiders will do it;
ii) informing SYs there are already "special personalities" in Montreal, Canada who will do so and "that there was nothing that we needed to do about that information, but that we would know about them at a later time.”
I know this incident has quite faded from memory but please take your time and clarify if:
i) SYs are to announce Her Divine Message;
ii) the special personalities will announce Her Divine Message;
iii) SYs and special personalities will announce Her Divine Message;
iv) the special personalities will announce Her Divine Message if SYs do not.
Given the evidence that the WCASY has edited Her Divine Message out of Sahaja Yoga and is now actively engaged in suppressing any SY or website that does not follow its official SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion), it is of paramount importance to bear witness as to what Shri Mataji told SYs more than a decade ago at Sydney Airport, Australia. Future seekers will be able to draw great faith, courage, strength and nourishment from the fact that SM did tell of a great blessing to mankind that would confirm Her incarnation. You can help drive the final nail into the WCASY coffin.
warmest regards,
jagbir
—- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com, "jagbir singh" wrote:
>
> Violet, can you clarify the slight tension between Shri Mataji:
>
> i) telling SYs they must announce Her Message or else outsiders
> will do it;
> ii) informing SYs there are already "special personalities" in
> Montreal, Canada who will do so and "that there was nothing that
> we needed to do about that information, but that we would know
> about them at a later time.”
>
Dear Jagbir,
I remember very clearly that in 1993 most SYs (including myself) were waiting expectantly for the Sahaj leadership to put the collective desire into action and officially announce Shri Mataji's Message to the world... which SM asked us to do. This had not yet been forthcoming at that time, in spite of a lot of promises given to SM as well as many bandhans and shoebeats, etc. to destroy any negativity that was preventing this announcement. In 1993, myself and other SYs entrusted the leaders to organise this for us and we still had hope then... that the official announcement would happen. Many of us felt that once the SY leadership announced Her Message officially... then we would all be in a much better position to give Her eschatological message... individually or collectively.
When Shri Mataji told us at Sydney Airport in 1993 (I believe it was) that "special personalities" from Montreal, Canada would "give evidence" of Her Incarnation... that should have given the SY Leadership great confidence to announce Her Message with the knowledge that "evidence" of Her Incarnation would be forthcoming. However... it seems to me that the leadership "especially”.. did not take this information 'on board' in a realistic way. I think it was all a bit 'unreal' to them somehow. (I guess you could say it was kind of 'unreal' to us all. We had absolutely no idea what this "evidence" that SM talked about would consist of. We had no idea there was going to be this amazing mystical knowledge that She was going to reveal!)
Jagbir... you have asked what the tension between SY leadership/followers and Shri Mataji was in relation to your abovementioned points i) and ii):
I felt that any 'possible resultant guilt' that the SY leadership might have had for 'not officially announcing Shri Mataji's Message'... despite Her repeated pleas to do so... seemed to be assuaged by their mutual reassurance that: "Mother is again being a mother by gently chiding us... just like She always does and whatever we do... we know that She will always love us and forgive us... just like She always does.” (Even SM many times said that we took advantage of Her "motherliness.” Whenever She needed to, She reminded us that no other guru would have tolerated what She tolerates.)
Therefore I feel that SY Leadership/followers did not take responsibility for officially announcing Her Message because... just like children... they probably thought they would get away with it. In any case, they just seemed to put announcing Her Message in the "too-hard-basket.” (Please understand that not all SYs took advantage of Shri Mataji's motherly ways, however, and not all SYs felt this way... but the leadership held the sway ("The say")... so if a SY felt differently that was "their" problem... as I know you also have experienced... Jagbir.)
What they forgot, however... is that there is a time when even a mother has to finally put her foot down too... and it is not as if SM didn't warn and admonish them about this task that needed to be done. She gave SYs within the organisation every chance and encouraged them at every turn to do this vital job. However... I had the distinct feeling that many SYs thought that She was just 'gently teasing' them all the while and I am sure they did not believe that SM would ever give this vital job over to "others from outside the organisation of SY.”.. as She threatened to do in Her Motherly Way. (At that time, I did not think that would happen either.)
I feel that the reality of the situation did not really sink into the consciousness of SY leadership/followers, as many became increasingly steeped and entrenched in the external subtle system knowledge and rituals that SM had given, rather than "going deeper within" which is the gnostic knowledge which SM had also given. Shri Mataji frequently spoke about the need for SYs to "go deeper.” She gave the gnostic knowledge of the Adi Shakti within (the Holy Spirit within). She also informed us that the reason She incarnated was to introduce us to "Our Mother within.”.. who is also the most important person for us to meet... as She is the "Christian Comforter" that Shri Jesus promised would come.
In relation to the information that SM gave that day about "special personalities" from Montreal, Canada... who She said would "give evidence" of Her Incarnation... this fact 'in no way' took away the opportunity of SY leadership/followers to be the ones to officially announce Her Message. (This is an important point to remember.)
When I heard what SM said about these "special children" who would "give evidence" of Her Incarnation... I put this information into my heart and mind for a future date... when it would be important for me to remember what She said. I knew how important it was for an Incarnation to fulfill the spiritual eschatology (fulfill prophesies made about them). However, I don't think many SY leadership/followers gave this important factor much thought at all. In fact, I was actually quite appalled at their seeming ignorance in this area... at their lack of spiritual discernment in this area! (That was why I made "double sure" that I would remember what SM said... because I doubted that anyone else would... given all the factors and circumstances involved that worked against the retention of this knowledge SM gave.
Some clarifications:
When Shri Mataji said that...if SYs do not announce Her Message from within the organisation... that there will be others from outside the organisation that will do so.
This was not given in relation to the "special personalities.” It was given separately.
So... I believe Jagbir, that it is yourself now (and the others helping you) who are those "others outside of the organisation of SY" that are now announcing Shri Mataji's Message. They are doing so because the SY leadership/followers have not been "up to the task.”.. which is the way SM 'put it'; She said to the collective We shall see if you are up to the task.
Well... they have have not been up to the task and now Shri Mataji has given the responsibility of this vital task to others outside of the organization of Sahaja Yoga... just like She warned She would do if SY leadership/followers were not up to the task. We have evidence that SY leadership have refused to take up this responsibility to announce Her Message officially. They have in fact failed to do so... even to date.
However, SY leadership/followers could easily have proceeded with confidence and faith and announced Her Message... knowing that evidence of Her Incarnation would be forthcoming. It could all have worked out very beautifully. After all... Shri Mataji never gave SY leadership/followers the difficult task of "giving evidence.” All She required of them was to announce Her Message!
We know now that when the mystical evidence of Her Incarnation was given by the "special children" that SM mentioned would come from Montreal, Canada... that the SY leadership "especially" rejected this evidence. In fact the SY leadership had a terrible reaction against the mystical evidence given. They even decided that the children must be possessed! (Please be aware that not all SYs felt this way though. Not all SYs rejected this evidence... but most SYs felt obliged to follow/agree with the Sahaja Yoga leadership opinion... and that is why most SYs ended up rejecting this mystical evidence also... (by defacto you could say.)
Okay... granted! The mystical evidence that these children gave as evidence of the veracity of Shri Mataji's Incarnation must have come as quite a shock to the ritual-steeped SY leaders/followers. Reason being that by then they were already so steeped and entrenched into the external subtle system knowledge and all its mental concepts that it had become "religious doctrine" in Sahaja Yoga. Yes... clearing and cleansing rituals had become religious doctrine that had to be followed.
What had actually happened is that the SY leadership/followers had concentrated pretty well exclusively on all the external subtle system knowledge that Shri Mataji had given and in spite of SM's urgings to SYs to "go deeper.”.. they had still stayed very focussed on all the external subtle system knowledge and clearing and cleansing rituals. Therefore, the mystical knowledge that these "special children" from Montreal, Canada gave... as evidence confirming Shri Mataji's Incarnation... was just too much for the SY leadership/followers.
The SY leadership just could not "cope" with it. After all... what does this mystical knowledge... this 'gnostic evidence given'... have in common with the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion) which is a very externally based knowledge?
Therefore... I feel that the real reason why the SY leadership have dismissed the evidence given by these special children... is because the mystical knowledge that has been given... is so far beyond the external subtle system knowledge that they just cannot accept it. Not only that... but this mystical knowledge of the Adi Shakti within (the Holy Spirit within) really does make the external knowledge of the subtle system and clearing practices quite insignificant too.
After all...”gnosis" is not something that can be externally applied like the subtle system knowledge can. That is because the mystical knowledge is an "Internal knowledge.” It is the "Union with the Divine Knowledge.”.. and no external subtle system knowledge nor external clearing and cleansing rituals can achieve that solely from external means. It can really only be achieved "from within.”… ”by going within.” And that is what Shri Mataji tried to teach SYs... when She repeatedly told them that they needed to "go deeper.”
>
> I know this incident has quite faded from memory but please take
> your time and clarify if:
>
> i) SYs are to announce Her Divine Message;
> ii) the special personalities will announce Her Divine Message;
> iii) SYs and special personalities will announce Her Divine
> Message;
> iv) the special personalities will announce Her Divine Message if
> SYs do not.
>
Jagbir... it is clear to me now that the "giving of evidence" is distinct from "The announcing of Her Message.” Until now... I had thought that they were the one and the same, but I can see now that they are not the same. Even Shri Mataji made mention of both... separately from each other. Therefore, I can also see now that the SY leadership could have officially announced Her Message without the need to give any evidence of Her Incarnation whatsoever... as Shri Mataji had informed them that She had taken care of those details. The thing is... the SY leadership refused to accept the mystical evidence when it did come. Therefore, the question begs to be asked:
"What did the SY leadership/followers expect anyway? How could any evidence be anything but mystical? It had to be mystical evidence of the Divine within all human beings that would be the "evidence" to confirm Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's Incarnation!"
Now... the sorry situation in the organization of Sahaja Yoga is that anyone that follows WCASY (World Council of SY Leadership) is not allowed to accept this mystical evidence that Shri Mataji has given through these "special children.” Moreover... anyone who wants to announce Her Message officially... is now required to leave the organization of SY. In the final analysis... (just as Shri Mataji had warned back in 1993)... it is now "others from outside the organization of SY that are announcing Her Message.”
>
> Given the evidence that the WCASY has edited Her Divine
> Message out of Sahaja Yoga and is now actively engaged in
> suppressing any SY or website that does not follow its official
> SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion), it is of paramount
> importance to bear witness as to what Shri Mataji told SYs more
> than a decade ago at Sydney Airport, Australia. Future seekers
> will be able to draw great faith, courage, strength and
> nourishment from the fact that SM did tell of a great blessing to
> mankind that would confirm Her incarnation. You can help drive
> the final nail into the WCASY coffin.
>
Jagbir... I also trust that future seekers will be able to draw great faith, courage, strength and nourishment from the fact that Shri Mataji did tell of a great blessing to mankind that would confirm Her Incarnation. Although WCASY (and their followers) have rejected this great blessing... it is going out nonetheless. All seekers and future seekers will come to know about it, and neither WCASY or their followers can prevent Her Message from going out... just as Shri Mataji wanted it.
violet
Analysis of Shri Mataji's Teachings and Sahaja Yoga Conflicts

The 2006 Yahoo group emails between Violet and Jagbir, as well as the content from www.adishakti.org, provide a detailed account of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's teachings, her eschatological message of the Resurrection and Last Judgment, and the internal conflicts within the Sahaja Yoga organization, particularly with the World Council for the Advancement of Sahaja Yoga (WCASY). Below, I analyze the main points of the emails, extract evidence from www.adishakti.org confirming Shri Mataji's claims, and address the issues raised by Violet, especially her statement about the SY leadership's rejection of mystical evidence. I conclude by discussing the organization's refusal to announce Shri Mataji's eschatological message, despite her explicit instructions, and the role of www.adishakti.org in openly proclaiming it.
Main Points of the 2006 Yahoo Group Emails
The emails between Violet and Jagbir focus on Shri Mataji's announcement in Sydney, Australia (circa 1993–1996), regarding "special personalities" in Montreal, Canada, who would confirm her incarnation as the Adi Shakti (Primordial Divine Feminine) and her eschatological message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection. The discussion highlights tensions between Shri Mataji's expectations for Sahaja Yogis (SYs) and the leadership's failure to act on her directives, as well as their rejection of mystical evidence provided by Jagbir's children.
Shri Mataji's Announcement of Special Personalities
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Violet recalls Shri Mataji speaking to a group of Sahaja Yogis in Sydney between 1993 and 1996, stating that two "special personalities" (possibly children) in Montreal, Canada, would provide evidence confirming her incarnation. These individuals were described as not being part of the Sahaja Yoga organization but would perform a separate task of validating her divine status. Shri Mataji emphasized that SYs did not need to act on this information immediately, as the significance of these personalities would become clear later when they were older.
Violet's memory is vague due to the enigmatic nature of the announcement and Shri Mataji's casual delivery, which downplayed its immediate relevance. The term "special personalities" was unusual, as Shri Mataji typically described all individuals as special, making the statement stand out but also easy to overlook at the time.
Tension Between Shri Mataji's Directives and SY Leadership's Inaction:

Shri Mataji repeatedly urged SYs to announce her Divine Message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection to the world, warning that if they failed, "outsiders" would take up the task. This is noted in Violet's recollection of Shri Mataji's 1993 statement at Sydney Airport: If SYs are not up to it...
[Her Message would be given]... by people from outside of the Organization.
Violet clarifies that the "special personalities" were tasked with providing evidence of Shri Mataji's incarnation, distinct from the SYs' responsibility to announce her message. However, the leadership's failure to act on her directive to proclaim the message left the task to outsiders, including Jagbir and his children.
SY Leadership's Focus on Subtle System Rituals:
Violet notes that the SY leadership became increasingly focused on external subtle system knowledge (e.g., chakras, kundalini cleansing rituals) rather than the "deeper" gnostic knowledge of the Adi Shakti within, which Shri Mataji emphasized as the core of her teachings. This focus transformed Sahaja Yoga into the "Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion (SYSSR)", which Violet and Jagbir criticize as a corruption of Shri Mataji's vision.
The leadership's preoccupation with rituals led them to dismiss the mystical evidence provided by the "special personalities" (Jagbir's children), who experienced visions of the Divine Feminine in their Sahasraras (the spiritual "thousand-petal lotus" within).
Rejection of Mystical Evidence:
Violet highlights that when Jagbir's children provided mystical evidence—through their spiritual experiences in the Sahasrara, confirming Shri Mataji as the Adi Shakti—the SY leadership rejected it, labeling the children as "possessed" or "demonic." This reaction stemmed from the leadership's inability to reconcile the mystical, internal knowledge with their ritualistic, external focus.
Violet questions what kind of evidence the leadership expected, arguing that only mystical evidence of the Divine within could confirm Shri Mataji's incarnation. She suggests their rejection reflects a lack of spiritual discernment and an overreliance on external practices.
Jagbir's Role and the Role of Outsiders:
Jagbir, through www.adishakti.org, took up the task of announcing Shri Mataji's message after the SY leadership failed to do so. Violet sees Jagbir and his supporters as the "outsiders" Shri Mataji referred to, fulfilling her prophecy that others would spread her message if SYs did not.
Jagbir emphasizes the importance of documenting Shri Mataji's statements about the "special personalities" to counter the WCASY's suppression of her Divine Message and to provide future seekers with evidence of her incarnation.
Evidence from www.adishakti.org Confirming Shri Mataji's Claims
The website www.adishakti.org, maintained by Jagbir, serves as a repository of Shri Mataji's teachings and the mystical experiences of his children, which confirm her incarnation and eschatological message. Below are key pieces of evidence from the site:
Shri Mataji's Claims of Incarnation and Eschatological Message:

Shri Mataji explicitly declared herself the Adi Shakti, the incarnation of the Divine Feminine, sent to deliver the message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection. For example, in a 1983 talk in Sydney, she stated: I am the Adi Shakti. I am the One who has come on this Earth for the first time in this form to do this tremendous task.
She described Sahaja Yoga as the mechanism for the Last Judgment, stating: Sahaja Yoga is the Last Judgment
(August 28, 1979, Bombay, India) and The Last Judgment has started. We are facing the Last Judgment today
(June 11, 1980, Kingston, UK).
She linked Sahaja Yoga to the Resurrection across religious traditions, explaining that kundalini awakening enables individuals to become a Christian, a Brahmin, a Pir and that your Last Judgment is also now.
(December 10, 1979, London, UK).
In a 1993 talk in Moscow, she clarified the Resurrection: All these souls which are dead will take their birth, take human body and be saved through Qiyamah and Resurrection.
Mystical Evidence from Jagbir's Children
Since 1993, Jagbir's children (Kash, Lalita, and others) experienced thousands of spiritual visions in their Sahasraras, where they met Shri Mataji as the Adi Shakti and other divine figures (e.g., Shri Shiva, Jesus). These experiences are documented on www.adishakti.org, with detailed accounts of encounters in the "Kingdom of God" (Sahasrara). For example, Kash's vision of Shri Shiva wearing single-nailed clogs on Mount Kailash is cited as evidence of divine authenticity, as such footwear was historically accurate but unknown to the child.
Shri Mataji confirmed the validity of these experiences, acknowledging in the presence of SY leaders that Jagbir's children had accomplished a "miraculous work" by recording these revelations. Despite this, the SY leadership rejected the children's experiences, labeling them as "possessed."
Confirmation of Shri Mataji's Incarnation
The website asserts that the children's experiences "irrefutably identified Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi as the incarnation of the Divine Feminine sent to deliver God Almighty's Divine Message to humanity."
Shri Mataji's repeated approvals of the children's visions, starting in 1994, are cited as evidence that she endorsed their role in confirming her incarnation. For instance, a fax sent in November 1993 to Malaysia and read to Shri Mataji in 1994 detailed Kash's visions, which she acknowledged positively.
Suppression by WCASY

The site documents how WCASY edited out Shri Mataji's eschatological message, focusing instead on the SYSSR, which emphasizes external rituals (e.g., foot-soaking, lemon treatments). This is seen as a "blatant corruption" of her teachings, as Shri Mataji warned against rituals: All these rituals have entered into Sahaja Yoga... This is the nature of human being to follow the rituals because he thinks that he can do it.
(December 25, 1997, Ganapatipule, India).
WCASY's rejection of the children's mystical evidence and their labeling of them as "possessed" is cited as evidence of their failure to uphold Shri Mataji's message. This led Jagbir and his family to disassociate from the organization in 2000.
Analysis of Violet's Issues and Statement
Violet's statement—"The thing is... the SY leadership refused to accept the mystical evidence when it did come. Therefore, the question begs to be asked: 'What did the SY leadership/followers expect anyway? How could any evidence be anything but mystical? It had to be mystical evidence of the Divine within all human beings that would be the 'evidence' to confirm Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's Incarnation!'"—raises critical issues about the SY leadership's spiritual discernment and their deviation from Shri Mataji's teachings. Below, I analyze these issues:
Rejection of Mystical Evidence
Violet argues that the SY leadership's rejection of the mystical evidence provided by Jagbir's children reflects their inability to grasp the internal, gnostic nature of Shri Mataji's teachings. The children's experiences in the Sahasrara, where they met the Adi Shakti and other divine figures, were inherently mystical, aligning with Shri Mataji's emphasis on "going deeper" to connect with the Divine Feminine within.
The leadership's focus on external subtle system practices (e.g., chakra cleansing) created a rigid, ritualistic framework (SYSSR) that was incompatible with the mystical, internal knowledge of the Sahasrara. Violet suggests that the leadership expected evidence that fit their external paradigm, not realizing that only mystical experiences could validate Shri Mataji's divine identity.
Expectations of the SY Leadership1
Violet's rhetorical question—"What did the SY leadership/ followers expect anyway?"—highlights their lack of spiritual discernment. Shri Mataji's teachings integrated eschatological prophecies from multiple religions (e.g., the Christian Last Judgment, Islamic Qiyamah, Hindu Kalki), which require mystical validation through direct experience of the Divine within. The leadership's failure to anticipate this suggests they misunderstood the purpose of her incarnation, which was to awaken the kundalini and facilitate union with the Divine (Sahaja Yoga's core meaning: "born with union").
The leadership's dismissal of the children's experiences as "demonic" indicates fear and resistance to the unknown, possibly due to their entrenched belief in the SYSSR as the sole path to spiritual growth. This rejection alienated Jagbir and others who sought to uphold Shri Mataji's true message.
Mystical Evidence as the Only Valid Confirmation
Violet's assertion that the evidence "had to be mystical" is grounded in Shri Mataji's teachings that the Divine Feminine (Adi Shakti, Holy Spirit, Ruh) resides within all humans in the Sahasrara. The children's visions provided direct, experiential proof of this, as they witnessed Shri Mataji in her divine form, corroborating her claim to be the incarnation of the Adi Shakti.
This mystical evidence aligns with gnostic traditions, which emphasize direct knowledge of the Divine over external rituals. Shri Mataji's statement, "Till the complete knowledge in the form of my consciousness arises, there is no liberation," underscores the necessity of internal realization, which the SYSSR's rituals cannot achieve.
Leadership's Failure to Announce the Message
Violet notes that the SY leadership's refusal to announce Shri Mataji's eschatological message stemmed from their complacency and reliance on her "motherly" tolerance. Despite her repeated urgings—e.g., Now the Time has come to start talking, announcing, telling about it to everyone
(Fiuggi, Italy, May 6, 1990)—they placed the task in the "too-hard-basket" and focused on rituals instead.
The leadership's inaction was compounded by their rejection of the mystical evidence, which could have bolstered their confidence to proclaim her message. Instead, they suppressed those who attempted to do so, including Jagbir, leading to his self-exile from the organization in 2006.
Conclusion: Sahaja Yoga's Refusal and www.adishakti.org's Role

Despite Shri Mataji's explicit instructions to announce her eschatological message of the Resurrection and Last Judgment, the Sahaja Yoga organization, particularly under WCASY's leadership, consistently refused to do so. This refusal is evident in their focus on the SYSSR, which prioritizes external rituals over the gnostic, mystical knowledge of the Divine within. Shri Mataji warned SYs in 1990: Now the Time has come to start talking, announcing, telling about it to everyone. Otherwise the world would say that we never knew about it. Yet, WCASY edited out her Divine Message, suppressed dissenting voices, and rejected the mystical evidence provided by Jagbir's children, labeling them as "possessed by evil spirits."
In contrast, www.adishakti.org, maintained by Jagbir, has openly proclaimed Shri Mataji's message since its inception on January 1, 2000. The site documents her teachings, the children's mystical experiences, and the eschatological significance of Sahaja Yoga as the fulfillment of the Last Judgment and Resurrection. By doing so, it fulfills Shri Mataji's prophecy that "outsiders" would spread her message if SYs failed. The organization's rejection of this evidence and message has marginalized www.adishakti.org, but the site remains a beacon for seekers, offering "great faith, courage, strength and nourishment" through its unfiltered presentation of Shri Mataji's vision.
Violet's question about what the SY leadership expected underscores the tragedy of their spiritual shortsightedness. By clinging to external rituals and dismissing mystical evidence, they failed to uphold Shri Mataji's mission, leaving it to outsiders like Jagbir to carry forward her Divine Message. This schism highlights a broader tension between institutional control and authentic spiritual experience, with www.adishakti.org standing as a testament to the latter.
Pariah Kutta (https://adishakti.org)https://grok.com/chat/afe3f63d-dd18-4e99-938a-649c857ef518
1. Forwarded Message: John Noyce of Australia
From: Viktor Bondar
To: "Yura" <inspired@...>
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:23:59 +0200
John Noyce of Australia has been keeping a close eye on the activities of the owner of www.adishakti.org, who used to be in SY but clearly isn't a Sahaja Yogi now, and is openly critical of all Sahaja leadership, including, at times Shri Mataji Herself.
He is somewhat eccentric and for example, advocates not using a photo of Mother when meditating, not footsoaking, etc. The owner of this site, one Jagbir Singh of Canada, is on a crusade to spread his own eccentric, supraconscious view of what Sahaja Yoga is, and where possible we should advise people not to go there - although of course, individuals are free to do what they like.
John tells me that the web site https://inspired.kiev.ua/about/ links to www.adishakti.org.
Obviously, I don't know the owner of that web site, Yuriy Linnyk, whether he is Sahaj or not, but in the event that he is known to you, is it possible that you might prevail upon him to remove the link as it contains much erroneous and inaccurate information. Yuriy lists adishakti.org before the official Sahaj Yoga website.
Much love and best wishes,
Alan
Jai Shri Mataji