2001 poster declaring Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi as the World Savior
May 25, 2004
Dear All,
According to Flore Descieux's, The Light Of The Koran, the picture taken at Rahuri, Maharashtra, India in 1983 shows the Ma Adi in a shower of light as She talks about a great Muslim Pir who once lived there.
Shri Mataji has over than 30 years given us an abundance of priceless knowledge of the Sahasrara and more than enough evidence of Her divinity, both in Heaven and on Earth, to make Sahaja Yoga tower over all other spiritual and religious paths. No other incarnation/ prophet/ guru in history has revealed or guided humanity to the depth of their souls that Shri Mataji has.
Despite all Her efforts and selfless devotion to complete the task, a most difficult duty which She accomplished years ago, we SYs continue to wonder why Sahaja Yoga is not spreading. We are still looking for answers and watch helplessly as modern gurus continue gathering hordes of swooning devotees and expand their bases. No one seems to know why despite years of brainstorming sessions and workshops.
But, honestly, how many seekers will believe in a World Savior whose 'official' websites and devotees discuss nothing related to it. Thousands of gurus and yoga teachers advertise the same subtle system that is Sahaja Yoga, and their numbers are growing. Surely seekers do not need a subtle system Savior when mere humans can provide professional services? And isn't it just disgusting and cheap for SYs to bring a World Savior to that mundane level?
I for one feel ashamed that the Shakti, the Maha-Devi, has been reduced to a subtle system teacher. Hope there are others who share my humiliation, and give me hope to plod on.
jagbir
Can SYs compete with hundreds of professionals like Dr. Susan Shumsky?
From: jagbir singh
Date: Thu Apr 8, 2004 6:45 pm
Subject: Can SYs compete with hundreds of professionals like Dr. Susan Shumsky?
—- In shriadishakti@yahoogroups.com, jagbir singh
SYs, instead of capitalizing on the unique exclusivity of Shri Mataji message and knowledge of the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah, have instead overwhelmingly emphasized on the common subtle system. Thus, instead of having a clear monopoly and assured envious success they choose for some unfathomable reason to compete head-on with thousands of slick subtle system salesmen employed by organizations with deep pockets.
SY organizations now openly weaseling Her Divine Message and Incarnation
From: "my2pai"
Date: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:32 am
Subject: Re: TELL ALL THE NATIONS
Dear All,
This is to continue the thread TELL ALL THE NATIONS and also to present some points to meditate on in conjunction with the Shivaratri Puja weekend.
I recently came across the excerpt as appended below where Shri Mataji expresses in no uncertain terms what She wants of Sahaja Yogis in the dissemination of Her Divine Message. Although these words were spoken in England to the English Sahaja Yogis, these are really words for all the Sahaja Yogis of the world and for all time, or at least for the time remaining of the Last Judgment.
Here are the highlights of Shri Mataji's speech: "Say what you want. There should be exuberance, exuberance of your ideas... Emphatically you have to say these... Let him be blasted! Doesn't matter, say everything that you have to say. Absolutely, with full heart... Why should we not, when this is the truth. Why should we not tell them and talk to them in that manner... When you've to say it, say it in a very blasty way, doesn't matter. What are they going to do? They can't crucify me this time, can they? They dare not... So you better say what you've found out, in a big way. And tell them in a big way..."
And Shri Mataji stresses that there should be no understatement (in the expression of the Divine Message), as the English and the Sahaja Yogis are wont to; no weasel words in expressing the glory of Her Incarnation.
C.
February 26, 2006
Dear All,
Shri Mataji made that speech 21 years ago on 21/9/85 at Sheffield, UK, extolling SYs to openly declare Her Divine Message and Incarnation. Nothing was to be hidden from the public! SYs were to fearlessly TELL ALL THE NATIONS!
More than two decades later management SYs have managed to remove the heart and soul of Her Divine Message and replace it with their own version. The SYs who follow the following organizations listed below are as guilty as going against Shri Mataji's express wishes as those who are now openly weaseling and understating Her Divine Message and Incarnation. They have managed to suppress Her Divine Message and glory of Incarnation while the Adi Shakti is still on Earth. What do you think will happen if Shri Mataji leaves? Why are you empowering those who are openly weaseling Her Divine Message and and understating Her Incarnation?
Always remember what Shri Krishna said,
"Arjuna, such words are not worthy of a hero like you. Your duty is to fight. Those who have joined the forces against justice and righteousness have to perish. The good must be protected. Attachment to friends and relatives should not come in the way of your duty."
So do your duty and rise against those who still refuse to obey Shri Mataji after 21 years. The more you empower management SYs/WCASY the greater the threat to Her Divine Message and Incarnation grows. Read Shri Krishna's message again and again till you understand the gravity of going against Dharma ........... or worse, joining forces with those who do not want you to "better say what you've found out, in a big way." Do not empower those who have never obeyed Shri Mataji's Vak that SYs must "TELL ALL THE NATIONS!" ...... and still refuse to obey Her. Why do you think She has resorted to complete silence and left management SYs powerless, clueless and rudderless? Let Her destroy all who are against the Truth!
jagbir
February 2, 2006
To all here,
This is an email that i have written and sent to certain yogis in the collective i am a part of whom have become very close. Its almost a group within a collective of very likeminded people who clearly see the flaws of how the collective is run and want to change it. The replies I got for them in regards to this was great and they agreed; so now the work starts guess.
I wanted to share this all with you maybe partly because of my ego, but also to show that there are people younger ( 24-29) that really want to do SY the way it was meant to be taught and are not all brainwashed so to speak.
Enjoy
Kyyan
DEAR ALL,
(the yogi i originally named will remain absent to protect his privacy) is right, and I have been thinking this and discussing this with many yogis online for many months.
What it comes down to is exactly what (name withheld) yogi said: - telling the truth. Holding a meeting once a week to give realization is good, but how much is truly being done to get mothers message out there like she has asked repeatedly, which is the message that it is the last judgement and resurrection time as prophesied in the bible and other spiritual texts, and that she is the Adi Shakti, (the incarnation of the Holy spirit), the breath of God, that has been promised by Jesus to come in the time before the end to comfort people, and to teach all he could not teach about the kingdom of God. In laymen's terms, it is the time for us to Ascend as a whole and individually and that The Adi Shakti (Holy Spirit)is here on earth to connect us to Ourselves and to GOD, allowing us time to purify ourselves and introduce others to Her and to them selves so they have the same chance and to be saved and to enjoy the spirit and all the blessing that go along with it.
I feel that the Ashram is suffering as well, in part to what (name withheld) has said, but I feel also because we are not openly declaring the truth of what SY is, basically not doing as mother has asked. DO we really think that SY is going to spread like wildfire if we cloak it to initial visitors as a yoga that raises the kundalini and works on the chakras? I mean in a huge sea of similar yogas and meditation classes that are out there as well that claim to raise the kundalini and do this and that with the Chakras, and even another "group" that claims their leader is the incarnation of the Adi Shakti (yes there is another meditation group claiming an obvious fake who has no power to be the Adi Shakti), do we really think that marketing this as a "special yoga" or stress relief and health benefit yoga is going to get followers when there are already loads of the same out there that charge lots of money (people feel secure and ensured of the benefit if they have to pay for some reason) and put so much into flashy advertising, while we twinkle like a Christmas light on a sunny day?
I know that people may be fearful that many won't accept the fact that "judgement day" as it were, is actually a period of time (not a day) in which we are currently living and may scoff, ridicule or run away from SY. Even more to that point, many are probably scared that if we openly tell others, especially beginners, that SY is not just a meditation, but is the only way to take part in the Last Judgement and it is our birth right, as well as the fact that Mother is the Holy Spirit( ***not just an incarnation who remains nameless at first, or a guru, or highly evolved soul as it is being said at most meetings) that these people may flee and never return or not come back because its too religious or whatever. There is no doubt this may happen, but by far I can't see it as being a trend. IF anything, if more people know the depth and truth of SY and who mother is right up front, whether they believe or not, they would be more inclined to stay on or keep it locked in there heads like " what if what they are saying is true?" instead of running away and never returning. I mean right now how many really return or practice, especially those who have damaged their subtle system so much that they don't feel anything for quite some time? How many of those people will come back if they feel nothing, knowing that its just another meditation to bring peace to the mind, like the thousands out there claiming the same thing as we are currently explaining SY to people?
They would and will not return because they have gotten nothing out of it. If people knew the truth, and that this was not just a meditation but the connection to the Holy spirit and "heaven" and that the one who is in the picture is actually the Holy Spirit, they would be more inclined to stay despite feeling little or nothing. Not only that, those that run may eventually come back because of this fact and besides, how well has our "bait people with a special yoga and tell the whole truth later" idea worked for SY and our collective so far. By the looks of things, not very good, or at least as well as it could be working.
The way I see it, deceiving people or only telling part of the truth or a "half truth" is still lying, and how long are we going to lie or deceive in order to tell the truth? The end does not justify the means, especially when Mother has asked us to declare the time of Judgement and resurrection is now and that she is the Adi Shakti. The quote to which I am referring are below; think about them:
“I am the Adi Shakti. I am the One who has come on this Earth for the first time in this form to do this tremendous task . The more you understand this the better it would be. You will change tremendously.
I knew I'll have to say that openly one day and we have said it. But now it is you people who have to prove it that I am that!"
Shri Adi-Shakti Devi
Sydney, Australia ? March 21, 1983
“You have to take a stand in your family, in your surroundings, with your friends, and you have to tell them, "You better all get realized." The reason for that is that the Christ who crucified Himself is going to come back with his Eleven Forces of Destruction. And when He starts He is not going to ask you to take any Realization. No one is going to be bothered whether you are going to hell. He will just sort out. But those who have got Realization will enter into the Kingdom of God. You have to enter into the Kingdom of God here (pointing to the Sahastrara in the photo)), as I say, in the Seventh Chakra."
Shri Adi Shakti Devi
The New Age Has Started,
Houston, USA ? Oct. 6, 1981”
Words of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi:
“Tell all the nations and tell all the people, all over, the great message - that the time of Resurrection is Here. Now, at this time, and that you all are capable of doing it. You are the ones who are capable of manifesting God's joy on this earth. You are the flutes which are going to play the Melody of God. I am doing all this to perfect you to be the 'most' beautiful instruments of God. Like the ship is built, is brought to the sea, tried, and found out to be sea-worthy to sail out, when you know everything about the ship, everything about the sea, with complete freedom and wisdom, you have to sail now. Not afraid of any storms or any gales or any typhoons because now all you 'know'. Your job is to cross through."
You become the Ocean, you become the Moon, you become the Sun, you become the Earth, you become the Ether, the firmament - and you become, the Spirit. You work for all of them. All the stars and universes you become, and take up their work.’
(Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 28 September 1996)
She has said all of this back in 1996 and how many people out there worldwide in SY have openly done this, and how many other people know about it outside of SY? I agree with (name withheld) that other people are not afraid to tell of their faiths and explain to people why their faith is the way. Why are we so fearful of ridicule? People ridiculed Jesus but he stood firm on the truth, knowing that what he was saying was absolute; in the same way all fears should be given up because what we are doing and what has been asked of us is absolute asked of us by the absolute.
The speeches we watch and the knowledge given is not only for us to enjoy and benefit from, but for everyone to know of and benefit from. Why can we openly declare and worship her as the Adi Shakti in private but then keep quite about the greatest opportunity for mankind and what many are watching the skies for signs and searching for in public, especially since those are the very people who are looking for God and who we have been chosen to help save. How can we save people using dishonesty or hidden agendas, when the mode of saving people is the truth? If we are scared, like (name withheld) said, just let Mother Do it all. We have to be up-front with the truth, however powerful and fearful it may be for some, including ourselves, and surrender the rest to mother, including the words. She will help us, guide us and take care of everything as She wills it, not how we think it should be taken care of . IF people run, they run, if they stay they stay; at least they are running or staying based on knowing the truth, and whatever people choose and what they decided to do and go through is all up to Mother. We are the instruments(however badly blocked they are heheh- in my case) and all we have to do is tell the truth and allow Mother to play the music that will draw and sooth the listeners, comforting them and introducing them to Her. We do nothing anyways, so why are we worried about doing nothing; we simply do nothing and let Mother take care of everything.
My point is we need to tell who Shri Mataji is up front and that this is the last resurrection and judgement as prophesied in the bible etc, as well as explaining the subtle system and how it works etc. as is being already done, all the time, in public and at meetings or one on one situations, which we should all strive to put ourselves in more (grass roots! as I was talking about in the other letter) and let mother work out the rest. At least we will be doing what she asked us instead of dodging it, and we will know no matter what happens, we are standing on the truth and doing as she asked us, so we will be looked after. To me, I would rather be standing before "MOTHER" at the end of this life knowing I helped Her do what She came her for and She asked of me, in total truth and with all my effort, than be asked by Her "why did you waste so much time, enjoying the pure knowledge for yourself only, instead of surrendering fear to me and doing as I asked?"
That's all I have to say on that. Either way, whatever is decided to be done officially is fine. I will without a doubt, 100% of the time (and hopefully you all will be with me in this despite what other older, more established yogis may think) telling people up front the truth about SY and let them decide what they will do about it, and let Mother work it all out.
With love as always; take care
Kyyan
June 24, 2014
Dear all,
I only saw Shri Mataji "in person" one time in my life in 2008, and it was at a puja with 10,000 other people there as well. It was hard to wrap my head around the fact that I was seeing on stage the person I had been putting my attention to in the photographs and in the videos.
Before I got my realization I was drawn to Shri Mataji's poster at a train station a few years before, where I wrote down the SWAN website on a scrap piece of paper that was in my pocket at the time, and then went off to drink and party with my friends (2001). I packed that paper away in a box and moved to a different province for 3 years a few weeks after this event. When I came back I only brought three boxes with me back to Vancouver and one of those boxes, unbeknownst to me, had that paper in it. Eventually that little paper lead me to this website (adishakti.org) and my whole life began to change, as did my understanding.
Anyways, when I got my realization online, what I understand now was happening, is that the Devi within began communicating with me, not Shri Mataji in her physical form through dreams. One dream, which if you look through the forum history you can find my description of, she showed me a mirror of myself in which my reflection was myself as a 4 or 5 year old child complete with all the joy, innocence, and freedom of mind that I had then. I burst into tears of joy and woke up feeling that joy for the rest of the day.
I'm beginning to understand the difference about the Devi inside versus outside, as not being able to ever really be in Mothers physical presence, all my prayer, attention, etc was either on the photo or mostly inside of myself where she resides.
JSM
Krishna