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To
those management SYs who want to organize/ suppress the
Truth
From: "jagbir singh"
<adishakti_org@...>
Date:
Fri Jul 8, 2005 1:20 am
Subject: Re: What
Has Happened Even Before Shri Mataji's Passing...
—- In
adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com,
"violet_tubb"
<vtubb@b...> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Just for the record, why is it that people in SY
organization want
> to organize the Truth, which Shri Mataji has said you
cannot
> organize.
>
> Why also have i been asked at least 10 times to stop
partaking in
> this website (where i might add the full message of the
Adi
> Shakti, namely of the Last Judgement and Resurrection is
> articulated?)
>
> Organization SY has pushed the point so succinctly that i
have
> said that if it makes them happy, i will not attend the
local
> collective anymore, and they are happy with that decision.
i was
> not asked to leave in so many words, but i was made so
? uncomfortable with this repeated request, that i
volunteered to
> leave the local collective. What could i do? The strong
advice to
> me was to quit the websites... the very websites which are
the
> only websites that openly declare Her Full Message to
Humanity on
> an Open Forum. i have also been told in this regard, that
all that
> SY's have to do is give the experience of Self-Realization
to
> others.
>
> What have i told them?
>
> i have asked what is it that the Organizaton SY is so
afraid of?
> Am i a threat? Is Shri Mataji also a threat to their world
view?
>
> The fact that the SY organization is saying that all we
have to do
> as SY's is to give self-realization is one of the first
examples
> of the watering down of the Full Message of Shri Adi
Shakti, which
> is also about the Last Judgment and Resurrection... the
fulfilling
> of the teachings of all the prophets and Incarnations, and
the
> Promise of the Advent of the Holy Spirit (Christianity),
the Ruh
> of Allah (Muslims), the Maitreya (Buddhists), the Eykaa
Mayee
> (Sikhs), the Ruach (Jewish) and of course the Adi Shakti
(Hindus).
> Organizational SY, i ask, why have you not declared the
Last
> Judgment and Resurrection which Shri Mataji has asked you
to do?
> She is not going to force you to do so as that is not in
Her
> nature, unlike yourself who try to force others to do the
will of
> SY Organization. She always gives people enough rope
(meaning
> freedom) until if they do the wrong thing they 'hang'
themselves
> with this rope of liberty and then are finished and out of
the
> organism of Sahaja Yoga. Why are you not telling "the
truth.. the
> whole truth, and nothing but the truth"? Why must you use
your
> power to tell SY's what to do and think, contrary to what
Shri
> Mataji has taught. She says to be a leader is a myth and
She says
> that we are to respect our leaders but that we are to be
our own
> gurus; not them. Why are so many leaders wanting to then
be De-
> Facto Gurus? There is no need for it this time around. We
are in
> Satya Yuga. This is the New Age. Look around you at the
Social
> Change in Relation to Religious Organizations.
Spirituality is
> going the way of 'Organism' ... not 'Organization'. Can't
you see
> that? And ideally, if you just let the Paramchaitanya work
it
> out... SY will be the Organism that Shri Mataji envisions
it to be
> where we are all our own Gurus, working as One Global
Collectivity
> in Love and Harmony.
>
> The words of Shri Mataji are liberating when compared to
the words
> of Organization SY. She has asked us to write about our
> experiences in our own words, which we are doing here,
whereas
> Organization SY is asking us to be quiet and not say
anything. She
> has asked us to be honest, open, and forthright which we
are doing
> on these websites, whereas Organization SY is trying to
suppress
> this transparency. She has asked us to tell everyone the
Divine
> Message of Sahaja Yoga, which we are doing, as this is a
Public
> Forum, however Organization SY wants to shut down even
this 'one
> and only' Open Public Forum where SY's and non-SY's can
> communicate with each other.
>
> Let me say here, that i do not like saying these things. i
wish i
> did not have to, because i love SY the organization
> (distinguishing 'organization' here from SY organizational
types
> who like to suppress). However, i have to express openly
and
> truthfully what is in my heart and hope that Organization
SY's
> (who like to suppress) wake up and smell all the roses of
freedom
> soon. There is no contradiction in the Divine Message of
these
> websites here and in the message of Sahaja Yoga
(spontaneous
> union) which is declared in the organization of Sahaja
Yoga that
> Shri Mataji Herself has set in place.
>
> Instead, Organization SY's are worrying about what
Anti-Sahaja
> websites might make of Shri Mataji's words on this forum.
Jagbir,
> fortunately along with others, has spear-headed debate
with these
> Anti-SY websites and has collected the evidence to prove
that
> these Anti-SY's are distorting and misrepresenting the
Truth, plus
> the fact that many of these characters are adharmic in
many ways
> in their own lives... in other words, they disregard the
Moral
> Codes of the Holy Books.
>
> In any case, the incessant worry over Anti-SY's using the
words on
> this forum should not stop us from telling the Whole
Divine
> Message. Why should Sahaja Yogis let negativity stop them
from
> telling the world the Divine Message of the Adi Shakti? i
don't
> understand Organization SY's stance on this. It does not
make
> sense. Or does this mean that deep within Organization
SY's
> psyche, they do not have the faith that the Divine Message
will
> succeed against all obstacles this time around even though
Shri
> Mataji has PROMISED that the WHOLE Truth will win over all
> obstacles at this time of the Kali Yuga/Satya Yuga. The
truth of
> the matter is, wherever there is light... darkness is also
> attracted to it ... and it will always try to fight it...
and
> that is the case with these Anti-SY's.
>
> We just have to keep on working for the Adi Shakti, who is
not
> restricted by the organizational types of SY's. And Shri
Mataji
> has promised that THIS TIME the TRUTH WILL COME OUT as the
winner.
> The religious organization will not be able to water down
the
> Divine Message this time because of the miracle of
Information
> Technology and Shri Mataji says the most important reason
for the
> development of this Information Technology was so that the
Whole
> Divine Message would get out to the masses this time.
Therefore,
> as these are the only websites that declare the FULL
TRUTH, they
> will remain and no attempt by SY organization to date and
in
> future will be able to shut them down.
>
> By the way, i asked the SY Organization to provide me with
proof
> from Shri Mataji's handwriting Herself, that She wants
these
> websites shut down. Do you know what they said? We have no
proof
> and it would not be right to ask for it. Why would it not
be right
> to ask Shri Mataji while she is still here in Her physical
body,
> if it is such an important matter? The answer it would
seem is ...
> they dare not ask Her. i would deign to suggest this is so
because
> deep down they fear they may be wrong in this regard and
are also
> afraid of Shri Mataji's response.
>
> Not to be wanted in the local collective by Organization
SY is not
> the end of the world. It is a disappointment to be sure,
as i will
> not longer be able to enjoy the collective pujas and so
forth.
> However, i know that i am in the Global Collective
Consciousness
> of the Adi Shakti and that i am a Sahaja Yogi, no matter
what any
> organizational types might decide. They can never take
away the
> Adi Shakti within me. i would rather please and listen to
the Adi
> Shakti within than the multitude of voices without.
>
> And i will continue to openly declare the FULL MESSAGE
here on
> these websites and share with the Global Collective Sahaja
Family
> the beautiful truths that Shri Mataji Nirmal Devi has come
to give
> the whole world.
>
> Jai Shri Mataji!
>
> Violet
>
From: "jagbir singh"
<adishakti_org@...>
Date:
Fri Jul 8, 2005 12:20 am
Subject: To those
management SYs who want to organize/suppress the Truth
To those management SYs
who want to organize/suppress the Truth even
when Shri Mataji is on Earth, i ask what does Shri Mataji
mean when
She said the following quotes below.
If you cannot provide answers please leave Violet and others
alone
to do what you management SYs do not have the faith and
conviction
to accomplish. Why are you so afraid of the truth? Why do
you want
us to become hypocrites and compromise the Divine Message?
Why can't
you leave others to spread Sahaja Yoga the way they see it?
Why are
you forcing your rules on us when Shri Mataji strives to
make us
free?
What i really want to know is who gave you the authority to
tell
us what we cannot say about Sahaja Yoga? That is why i have
got some
quotes of Shri Mataji below that you probably do not like
Violet and
others talking on the forum and websites. There are more in
case
that is not enough.
But what i truly want you management/control freaks to
explain is
what Shri Mataji means by this particular sentence, "Now the
Time
has come to start talking, announcing, telling about it to
everyone.
Otherwise the world would say that we never knew about it."
Are you by any chance implying that the world never knew
about self-
realization and chakras? Is that what we have to announce
and awe
humanity with the help of thousands of subtle system
teachers? What
is the need i may ask when countless yoga schools are
already doing
a far better job? Or is it our patented lemon and chilly
treatments
that Shri Mataji is talking about?
But why does the Divine Message disturb all of you so much?
Does
Shri Mataji by any chance mean that "Now the Time has come
to start
talking, announcing, telling about it to everyone"? Do you
think
that She, unlike the management SYs, is concerned that
"Otherwise
the world would say that we never knew about it"? Do you
think by
any chance She is talking about the Last Judgment and
Resurrection?
jagbir
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"Declare to all the nations now that I am the Holy Ghost and
I have
come for this Special Time, that is, the Resurrection Time."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Assume Yourself, Sydney, Australia - March 21, 1983
"Now the Time has come to start talking, announcing, telling
about it to everyone. Otherwise the world would say that we
never
knew about it."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
"The Truth which is absolute has to express itself in these
Modern Times. And even if it is not accepted it will never
die. On
the contrary, if it is not accepted, it will expose all
falsehood
and destroy it!"
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
"But I myself feel, as predicted by many, that possibly
because
of your understanding and your wisdom, I am sure something
great may
happen in this world and things may be brought to a proper
level of
understanding of spirituality because this is the Last
Judgment and
in this Last Judgment you have to play a very vital role
which I am
sure you can do it, if you decide to achieve something for
the
future. May God bless you."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Cabella, Italy — September 27, 1998
"But these are special time, the Blossom Time. They call it
the
Last Judgment, you can call it the Resurrection Time, you
can call
it the Qiyamah, they call it in Koran. It is said that
people will
come out of their graves and will get their Resurrection. I
mean
what is left to the graves is nothing but a few stones and a
few
bones. No! All these souls which are dead will take their
birth,
take human body and take their Realization in these special
times.
This is a sensible thing to say and is also happening."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Moscow, Russia — November 12, 1993
"The Last Judgment has started. We are facing the Last
Judgment
today. We are not aware of it. And all the satanic forces
have come
out like the wolves in sheep clothes. And they are trying to
attract
you and you do not judge them. You only sit down and judge
the
Reality. It has started, it is a fact. It has started."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Kingston, U.K. — June 11, 1980
"This is a living process, invaluable process — you cannot
pay. Also the Knowledge which makes you a Sahaja Yogi is
given
absolutely free of charge ... There is no money that can
be paid
for this living process ... They should also understand
that this
is the Golden Age of Emancipation, Resurrection and Last
Judgment.
If we can achieve it all of us — including them also — will
have the Blessings of the Divine Love which have been
promised a
long time back."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
"The main thing that one has to understand is that the time
has
come for you to get all that is promised in the scriptures,
not only
in the Bible but all the scriptures of the world. The time
has come
today that you have to become a Christian, a Brahmin, a Pir,
through
your Kundalini awakening only. There is no other way. And
that your
Last Judgment is also now."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
London, U.K. — December 10, 1979
"Actually we have to understand that this Kundalini is your
own
Mother. She has been with you in your past. She knows all
about you,
about your aspirations, about your future — everything She
knows!
And She is just waiting for an opportunity to give you your
second
birth. Now think how a Mother behaves. But She is a Holy
Mother. She
has no hatred for you — just Love and Love and Love. She
wants to
give you Self-Realization ...
Take it up seriously. It is very serious. You must respect
your Self-
Realization. This is a chance which you should not miss.
This is the
Last Judgment. So be careful."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
You Must Fight For Innocence
Cabella, Italy — September 15, 1996
"People do not know what Time has come. It is the Last
Chance.
You won't get anymore chance. In Bible it has been described
as the
Last Judgment."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Delhi, India — August 18, 1979
"This is the Last Judgment! Either you go to Heaven or
you'll go
to Hell. It's already working out like that. Now let's see
where are
you. I have to again and again tell you as your Mother. I
have to
correct you and tell you that remember: This is the Last
Judgment
and please do not take anymore to the activities which are
Antichrist."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Give Up Your Antichrist Behavior,
Christmas Puja, India — Dec 25, 1996
"Though you can understand that Mother's Love makes it very
easy
for you to get to your Realization and that the whole story
of Last
Judgment — which looks such a horrifying experience — has
been made very beautiful, and very tender, and delicate, and
does
not disturb you."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Bombay, India — Sept 28, 1979
"In between Jesus Christ and His destroying incarnation of
Mahavishnu called as Kalki there is a time given to human
beings to
rectify themselves; for them to enter into the Kingdom of
God which
in the Bible is called as Last Judgment" — that you will be
judged, all of you, will be judged on this Earth. The
population of
the Earth is at the maximum these days because all those,
practically all those, who had aspirations to enter into the
Kingdom
of God are born in Modern Times, and are going to be born
very soon.
This is the most important times because Sahaja Yoga is the
Last
Judgment. It is fantastic to hear this but that's the fact
it is
the Truth."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Kundalini And Kalki Shakti, Bombay, India — September 28,
1979
"Of course there are some absurd things which grew with
misinterpretation and interference from unholy people, which
are
common in these religions. For example, Jews, Christian and
Muslims
believe that when they die their bodies will come out of
their
graves and they will all be resurrected at the Time of
Resurrection,
at the Time of Last Judgment, at the Time of Qiyamah. It is
illogical to think what will remain inside those graves
after five
hundred years. Nobody wants to think and understand that it
is not
the body but the soul that will come out of these bodies, be
born
again as human beings and be saved through Qiyamah and
Resurrection."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
"The Time has come for you to get all that is promised in
the
scriptures, not only in the Bible but all the scriptures of
the
world. The Time has come today that you have to become a
Christian,
a Brahmin, a Pir, through your Kundalini awakening only.
There is no
other way out and your Last Judgment is also now. Only
through
Kundalini awakening God is going to judge you."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
The Message Of Christ,
London, U.K. — December 10, 1979
"The Indian sage, who may be called the pioneer in this
field,
was the first great astrologer Bhrigumuni. In his book Nadi
Granth,
he made clear predictions about these Modern Times. He also
specifically predicted how the Kundalini would be awakened
spontaneously through Sahaja Yoga, that is, spontaneous
union with
the Divine, and become the means of both individual and
collective
transformation on a large scale, through teaching
incarnation of a
great Yogi. This Yogi would be an unparalleled master of the
Kundalini and would teach all the people the ancients
secrets of
self-transformation. These are the times described in the
Holy Bible
as the Last Judgment and in the Koran as Qiyamah — the
Resurrection Time. Astrologically it also called the Age of
Aquarius, the Time of Rebirth and of great spiritual
development on
the Earth."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
"Jesus Christ incarnated to open the Agnya Chakra and to
dissolve
our ego. My job is to awaken your Kundalini Power so that it
could
pierce your Sahasrara Chakra. This work is of a collective
nature. I
have therefore to do it in the case of one and all. I want
to tell
you about Jesus Christ, Guru Nanaka, King Janaka and a
number of
other incarnations and the way they relate with the
Collectivity.
Similarly, I wish to talk to you about incarnations of Shri
Rama,
Shri Krishna, ecetera and also about Shri Shiva because all
the
Powers of these Gods and Deities are in us. Now the Time has
come
for Collective Consciousness to manifest.
In this Kali Yuga all those who are seeking God shall find
Him and
millions of people will be able to do so. Sahaja Yoga is the
Last
Judgment. This is described in the Bible. You are judged
only after
you come to Sahaja Yoga....
The Judgment in this matter is to be made by the individual
himself.
It is only when you stabilize in Sahaja Yoga that the state
of
thoughtless awareness is established. So long as the
Kundalini Power
does not pass through the Agnya Chakra the state of
thoughtless
awareness is not reached. As soon as the Kundalini crosses
the Agnya
Chakra the thoughtless awareness is established. It is the
Power of
Shri Jesus which is instrumental in opening the subtle door
located
above the Agnya Chakra. For that purpose you are to recite
the
Lord's Prayer composed by Jesus Christ. After crossing this
Door
the Kundalini Power enters the limbic area of the brain. It
is after
the Kundalini enters this area, which is also termed as the
Kingdom
of God, that the state of thoughtless awareness is
established."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
"The word Kalki is actually an abbreviation of the word
Niskalankh. Niskalankh means the same as My name is, which
means
Nirmala. That it is spotlessly clean. Something that is
spotlessly
clean is Niskalankh — without any spot marks.
Now this incarnation has been described in many Puranas as
will be
coming on this Earth on a white horse in a village of
Sambhalpur.
They call it Sambhalpur. It is very interesting how people
take
everything so literally. The word Sambhalpur means bhal is
the
forehead; sambhal means at that state. That means Kalki is
situated
at your bhal. Bhal is the forehead and here He is going to
be born.
That is the real meaning of the word Sambhalpur.
In between Jesus Christ and His destroying incarnation of
Mahavishnu
called as Kalki there is a time given to human beings to
rectify
themselves, for them to enter into the Kingdom of God, which
in the
Bible is called as Last Judgment."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
"As you know Sahasrara is Mahamaya. It is not easy to
understand
Me. For the time being you might know what I am then
suddenly you
forget. That's the trick because if you know Me in full ways
you
won't even sit here; you won't even come near to Me.
So that Mahamaya is acting all the time, but that's the only
way
you can judge people. This Last Judgment is not an easy
thing and
even if you put thousands of judges they cannot do this
Judgment
—
all the time you have to know what is what. And somehow I
know
everything but I will never show that I know. That's how I
work
it out and gradually I know what I have to do about that
person.
This Resurrection of yours is much more blessed than that of
Christ ... Only thing is first of all you have to
recognize Me
— that's all. You need not know Me; it's not easy.
It's difficult to know Me. But if you recognize Me —
that's all....
But that's the Love of your Mother that She wants to save as
many as possible all that are created on this Earth, to give
them
their Resurrection. This is a Special Time!"
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Self-Knowledge For Resurrection,
Easter Puja, Calcutta, India — March 14, 1995
"Sahaja Yoga is the way of Nature, is the Way of God. He has
given you the right to be that. It is your right that you
get it,
that you establish your Self in your own doing ... So you
have to
grow into it. Then you will enjoy and that is the Kingdom of
God
which is being promised to you in which you will feel
Collectively
Consciousness. That is what it is and that is the Last
Judgment
which has been talked. How are they going to judge you? Are
they
going to weigh you on a scale? ... Think about it — How
are
they going to judge you? The Judgment is Here!"
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Seeking In The West, London, U.K. — November 21, 1979
"Of course, this is also the age of science and technology
in
which human beings progressed beyond the stage of blind
faith. And
in this great happening of the Last Judgment (Bible) and the
Resurrection Time (Koran), one need not, and should not,
believe
blindfolded in whatever is said about ascent or salvation,
but
should treat it like a hypothesis, and observe the facts
with an
open mind like a scientist. Of course, if a hypothesis is
proved,
then any honest, scientifically minded modern person has to
accept
it. The pure Knowledge of the Divine, manifesting itself
directly
through Self-Realization, will progressively lead to the
creation of
a new race for the new Age. This Knowledge is not then for
very few
privileged individuals, as it was in the past, but for the
benevolence of the whole world. In this way, the last
breakthrough
of our evolution will be achieved en masse. The entire human
race
can be renewed and transformed. Dharma, righteousness, will
once
again be universally respected, and human beings will live
in Peace,
harmoniously with themselves, with Nature, and with each
other....
In My opinion every Westerner has, as a matter of urgency,
to
understand the vital role he has to play in this great Age
of
Transformation and of the Last Judgment."
Sri Mataji Nirmala Devi
"But these are special time, the Blossom Time. They call it
the
Last Judgment, you can call it the Resurrection Time, you
can call
it the Qiyamah, they call it in Koran. It is said that
people will
come out of their graves and will get their Resurrection. I
mean
what is left to the graves is nothing but a few stones and a
few
bones. No. All these souls which are dead will take their
birth,
take human body and take their Realization in these special
times.
This is a sensible thing to say and is also happening.
So now you have got your Realization because of your good
deeds you
did in your last previous lives, as we say punya purre. But
you must
respect it and you must understand what you've got is so
great. You
have to know you are the spirit now. You are special people.
You are
going to solve the problems of your country, of your
community, of
your society, of your families. You'll be solving the
problem of
the whole world. You are the one who are gong to bring Peace
on this
Earth. You are the one who are going to create a new world
of
beautiful divine people. So have faith in yourself. This
faith works
very fast because it is not a false faith — it is a fact."
The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Diwali Puja, Moscow, Russia — November 12, 1993
"You
cannot force on the organization of God anything. He is on
His own, His organization is on His own. Only thing you can
do is to
enter into His Kingdom and become a part and parcel of that
blissful
domain.
You would never like to change it either. It is so
wonderful. It is
so protective, it's so loving, is so gentle, so kind, so
compassionate, that you would hate to change that
organization, but
we do! We try to organize God.
For people who think that is the ultimate you have to seek,
it's all
arranged to enter into the Kingdom of God. The time has
come. This
is the Day of Resurrection. These are the days of
Resurrection."
Shri Pasahantri Devi
Hampstead, UK — July 22, 1982
(Pasahantri [811th]: One who destroys Pasas or bonds and
gives
liberation or Moksa.)
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