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Witness to the
Sahasrara, the Kingdom of the Spirit
From: "violet_tubb" <vtubb@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:37 pm
Subject: Witness to the Sahasrara, the Kingdom
of the Spirit
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Dear All,
Jagbir, you wrote:-
"However, only those who have borne witness to the
Sahasrara, the
Kingdom of the Spirit within, can give us that priceless
evidence
and knowledge. Only then can we truly comprehend and
have faith in
what both Sri Mataji and Confucius are really trying to
make us
humans understand of the true spiritual nature."
One of my earliest experiences of Sri Mataji in the
Sahasrara was
when I was relatively new to SY; I had not even been to
the local
collective yet because I was not deemed ready for that
yet. Looking
back, that was a wise decision on their part because I
might have
been put off; I had a Fundamentalist Christian
background, was an
idealist and expected ALL SY's to be perfect! I have
since learned
not to have any expectations of others and only have
expectations of
myself; to walk according to the light that has been
given to me.
Anyway, these wonderful yoginis, two ladies, made me
welcome to
their home on a weekly basis, all on my own, to
experience SY.
This one night, one of the ladies was clearing my
chakras for me
because I really needed help, when suddenly, without
warning, I had
a bodily reaction of becoming very sick.
They lovingly took me to a bedroom, laid me down and
brought a
bucket and cold compresses, explaining all the while
that I was
having a major "clear-out" and not to worry but that
everything
would be alright. I was a bit shocked at what was
happening to me in
such a dramatic fashion.
After staying for a few hours, my husband then had to
pick me up as
I was not fit to drive and he assisted me into bed, in
which I
stayed for 2-3 days. This "clear-out" was the worst
"flu-like"
reaction that I had ever experienced. Even though I knew
I was not
going to die, it felt like that!
As I was lying in bed, pondering my fate, I suddenly saw
Shri
Mataji's wonderful face peering down at me from above
myself at
about ceiling height. I was surprised and happy and
joyous and
completely absorbed by Her Love, Strength, and Assurance
that She
was the Author of this Gift of Cleansing to me and
therefore I would
be just fine.
I recovered very well after that and felt amazingly
lighter in body,
mind and spirit. This experience proved to me that Sri
Mataji
Nirmala Devi is indeed the Loving Mother of this
Universe. She is
the Comforter/Holy Spirit of the Christians, the Ruh of
Islam, the
Adi Shakti of the Hindus plus other Names as well for
the Jews and
others as has been prophesied in all religions.
Love from
Violet
—- In
shriadishakti@yahoogroups.com, "violet_tubb" <vtubb@b...>
wrote:
>
> As I was lying in bed, pondering my fate, I suddenly
saw Shri
> Mataji's wonderful face peering down at me from above
myself at
> about ceiling height. I was surprised and happy and
joyous and
> completely absorbed by Her Love, Strength, and
Assurance that She
> was the Author of this Gift of Cleansing to me and
therefore I
> would be just fine.
>
> I recovered very well after that and felt amazingly
lighter in
> body, mind and spirit. This experience proved to me
that Sri
> Mataji Nirmala Devi is indeed the Loving Mother of
this Universe.
> She is the Comforter/Holy Spirit of the Christians,
the Ruh of
> Islam, the Adi Shakti of the Hindus plus other Names
as well for
> the Jews and others as has been prophesied in all
religions.
>
>
Dear Violet,
You were indeed blessed to have Shri Mataji establishing
your faith
in Her. With such a atraumatic' start perhaps it was
necessary for
Her to prove that She is indeed the Loving Mother of
this Universe.
However i think that clearing was necessary given your
religious
background.
Not many Christian fundamentalists would in the first
place try out
Sahaja Yoga. That you did despite your strict upbringing
is indeed
remarkable. So how come you went to try it out? What it
is that
attracted you? i mean you never knew that Sahaja Yoga
was about the
Last Judgment. So what made you request Self-realization
which is
not an easy subject to understand?
i just want to know because i would not have joined Shri
Mataji on
the strength of what is written about Her. Even the cool
breeze
would have meant little because it is no big deal. That
is why i
gave it up the first time a friend introduced me to it
in 1991. Even
after weeks of explaining the whole thing made little
sense in
relation to the Divine. There are 1001 gurus who could
have given me
the same information that this SY was so proud about. i
am still
wondering why SYs like you are able to continue when
many have left.
Perhaps Shri Mataji visiting you played a crucial part
in your
staying on. Just curious.
jagbir
>
> —- In
shriadishakti@yahoogroups.com, "violet_tubb" <vtubb@b...>
> wrote:
> >
> > As I was lying in bed, pondering my fate, I suddenly
saw Shri
> > Mataji's wonderful face peering down at me from
above myself at
> > about ceiling height. I was surprised and happy and
joyous and
> > completely absorbed by Her Love, Strength, and
Assurance that
> > She was the Author of this Gift of Cleansing to me
and therefore
> > could be just fine.
> >
> > I recovered very well after that and felt amazingly
lighter in
> > body, mind and spirit. This experience proved to me
that Sri
> > Mataji Nirmala Devi is indeed the Loving Mother of
this
> > Universe. She is the Comforter/Holy Spirit of the
Christians,
> > the Ruh of Islam, the Adi Shakti of the Hindus plus
other Names
> > as well for the Jews and others as has been
prophesied in all
> > religions.
> >
> >
>
—- In
shriadishakti@yahoogroups.com, "jagbir singh"
<adishakti_org@y...> wrote:
>
> Dear Violet,
>
> You were indeed blessed to have Shri Mataji
establishing your
> faith in Her. With such a atraumatic' start perhaps it
was
> necessary for Her to prove that She is indeed the
Loving Mother of
> this Universe. However i think that clearing was
necessary given
> your religious background.
>
> Not many Christian fundamentalists would in the first
place try
> out Sahaja Yoga. That you did despite your strict
upbringing is
> indeed remarkable. So how come you went to try it out?
What it is
> that attracted you? i mean you never knew that Sahaja
Yoga was
> about the Last Judgment. So what made you request
Self-realization
> which is not an easy subject to understand?
>
> i just want to know because i would not have joined
Shri Mataji on
> the strength of what is written about Her. Even the
cool breeze
> would have meant little because it is no big deal.
That is why i
> gave it up the first time a friend introduced me to it
in 1991.
> Even after weeks of explaining the whole thing made
little sense
> in relation to the Divine. There are 1001 gurus who
could have
> given me the same information that this SY was so
proud about. i
> am still wondering why SYs like you are able to
continue when many
> have left. Perhaps Shri Mataji visiting you played a
crucial part
> in your staying on. Just curious.
>
>
Dear All.
i have received an email from Violet regarding the above
post which
i believe will help others understand religious
conditioning better.
i am going to give her email to a friend of mine whose
wife, a
lovely lady who had earlier accepted all faiths,
suddenly became
against all non-Christian traditions after she joined a
fundamentalist Pentecostcal church. Over time i have
seen her
becoming even more dogmatic in her views about others,
even
Christian groups like Catholics, Mormons, Jehovah's
Witness,
Methodists etc. As far as she is concerned only her
church has the
salvation truth, to the exclusion of all others.
Now she has intense dislike for even the Sikh faith of
her husband.
This is a mixed race/religious marriage that i attended.
That is why
it troubles me to find her so brainwashed by religious
fanatics in
rejecting even the traditions of her own husband.
This is indeed sad but the same pattern is repeated the
world over
as thousands of religious sects lay claim to the same
'chosen people'
doctrine. It is only when one meets Shri Mataji does
this hatred and
dislike for other religions, scriptures and prophets
end. Her Divine
Message to humanity gives us the vision and
enlightenment to
overcome all past conditionings. We come to know the
Truth that sets
us free. It is such a blessing to embrace all the
messengers of God.
Jai Shri Mataji,
jagbir
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Dear Jagbir,
I was a Seeker looking for Truth and SM led me to SY.
I was born into a Christian Fundamentalist Family. I
became very aware of the meaning of the verse in the
Bible that says it is "the letter that kills but the
Spirit that gives life." The religion I was in was
Puritan with all its Do's and Don'ts. I had to sign a
Membership Form agreeing to believe the Creed and also
to live as a Christian and this included, no drinking,
no smoking, no dancing, no going to movies, only dating
people from that faith, etc. It was very restrictive but
I was used to it. Then I grew up and as a teenager I
started to notice that people would talk about this and
that but deep down inside they did not really seem to
have what they spoke about, i.e. the joy within. I had
experienced the joy within in my communion with God but
a lot of church people never seemed to go that deep, the
way I experienced it.
I read the verse in the Bible that said, "Seek Me and
you will find Me, knock and the door will be opened, for
everyone who seeks shall find and whosoever knocks, to
them will the door be opened." This verse became my
guiding light and I pursued that quest until I found it
in SM and SY.
While in the church, I questioned everything. As a
teenager, I tried
to get the Minister's Son who was the Young People's
Leader to get a Prayer Group going to go "deeper" but he
was not interested. One time in front of the church at
what is called "Testimony Time", I mentioned that there
needed to be more of a flow of the Spirit and Love of
God rather than rules and regulations. It was just
ignored as if I had said nothing. Shortly after, I
decided to leave. I went Pentecostal for a while, read
Edgar Cayce, tried Rosicrucian's for about three months,
but that started getting expensive and I was still not
satisfied. Everyone had good points to show me how to
get to the Way but nobody seemed to be able to help me
to get there, really! I was interested in healing and
read a lot about that and studied to become a Remedial
Masseuse and I must say having massages helped me to
relax a lot.
Just a little aside here, not to change the subject, but
something of great interest! During the time of my life
when I was interested in "healing" one day I put my hand
above my son's head who was just a baby to check his
aura and this huge big wind came out of the top of his
head as strong as out of a vacuum cleaner! Well, I just
stood there transfixed, not being able to believe this
was happening! What is this, I said to myself, why am I
feeling a breeze out of my baby son's head? I will have
to ask someone. And then when I thought clearly again I
realized that this was not "normal". I had never heard
of anyone saying anything about a breeze coming out of a
head but I was determined that one day I was surely
going to find out about it. And for the time being, I
just forgot about it.
At this time my ex-husband and I had moved to an
inner-city suburb of Sydney, Australia. There was a bus
stop in front of our place and one day I saw a picture
of Sri Mataji Nirmala Devi smiling at me. I decided then
that I had to go and see Her and that She was special
but my ex-husband would not let me go to see Her. He was
dead against it. (That was in approximately late 1970's
to early 1980's if my memory serves me correctly) in
fact very near the time that Sri Mataji first started
coming to Australia.
In the midst of all my seeking, I turned within in
earnest to know the truth of my being and started
becoming aware of the voice of a Mother within me. She
was comforting, always told me that she loved me, that
she would look after me, not to worry, everything would
be all right. I did this many times, often turning to
The Mother within when I had problems and couldn't find
a way out or if I was lonely. She always left me
reassured and rejuvenated my faith in God.
Moving forward about ten years with a new husband and
living in the
country area of the Central Coast of N.S.W:-
It was in about 1992-93 that I answered a "Free
Meditation" ad and it happened to be Sahaja Yoga. These
two ladies gave my husband and myself our S.R. and I was
very happy to feel the Cool Breeze. I subsequently went
through a spiritual cleansing and became a new person. I
felt like when I was young again.
Jagbir, you ask what attracted me? Well I needed some
peace of mind
and to relax. However, at the same time, too having been
brought up
in Christian teachings I was also looking for "deeper"
truth and thought I would find it in some Meditation
Group because I had not found it in a church. I had
studied a lot of eastern mystical writers through the
Theosophical Library in Sydney. I believed that one of
these must be able to bring me the true experience that
I needed. You see, a lot of people talked about
self-realization but I couldn't find anyone to really
explain how they got it, or more to the point, how I
could get it. I did not know at this time that
Meditation and the experience of Self-Realization were
connected.
Jagbir, you say, that the Cool Breeze meant little to
you at that time and wanted to know what I felt about
it. Well, because I knew about the story of Pentecost
and the wind of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost through
Christian teachings, I was very excited when I felt it
and was told that it was the Cool Breeze or Wind of the
Holy Spirit. I had always searched for "something" and
had been told in Christianity that only the early
Apostles could have this Day of Pentecost experience.
The fact is that I was actually looking for the
Comforter, the Holy Spirit. I believed that they would
come on earth as a person, rather
than just a wind. It was predicted in the Bible. And I
looked for all the signs. So, this sign in itself, the
"Cool Breeze" for me signified that I was on to
something real rather than just talk.
At this time, I also tested everything I heard from
people as to compared to Bible Scriptures. They did not
charge money. That's
why I went to the "Free Meditation" class in the first
place. I felt uncomfortable to go to a Meditation Class
that charged money because I felt that they had ulterior
motives if they charged money. In some ways I am
pragmatic and deduce the truth through weighing up
a lot of facts. It goes something like this. Does this
teaching agree with what Jesus said? Does this truth
agree with what Jesus said? Does the Bible give a hint
of what I experience within as a possible Truth. And the
Bible always confirmed to me that I was on the right
track. I never believed that the Minister's were telling
God's whole Truth.
It is my belief that the most important thing in seeking
is to desire the Truth and not to accept anything less
than the Truth. However, the Truth has to be sought
within our temple of the Holy Spirit and also without in
the Sacred Scriptures of all the religions. Each facet
is needed to be a yogi/yogini who can be their own guru
and not be swayed by untruths in any form whatsoever. In
my experience, you need the Scriptures to be grounded as
is taught in Christianity...."Study to show thyself
approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be
ashamed, rightly dividing the word of God." (The Bible)
I personally think that all SY's need to spend more time
in studying the Scriptures of all the religions so that
they have a better foundation in belief of what they
practice and realize that the clearing and establishing
of the Kundalini is only the beginning and not the end
of everything. We need a bit of grounding not just in
experience but also in understanding. That way there is
more hope to go forward and avoid pitfalls. We need to
be respected by other faiths and the only way that can
happen is that we learn about them and unite in the
Truth of all the faiths; be open-hearted, realize that
we are fortunate to have been given the teachings of Sri
Mataji Nirmala Devi. One of the truths that can unite us
is the Last Judgment and Resurrection, which we all on
the earth are facing now. Coming from a Christian
Fundamentalist background, I think Sahaja Yoga, as an
organization will become great if it can bear to break
through all the religious barriers in an open way
through the message of the Last Judgment and
Resurrection. That would make SY great for future
generations whether they take the Christian, Jewish,
Islamic or Hindu path.
Jagbir, you ask why I am still staying on when many
others have left. As long as I am wanted I will stay on.
They are my brothers and sisters. Whether I am in the
local collective or with SY's in the collective
conscious, I enjoy their company.
Mind you, as in any organization, one has to stay strong
and be one's own guru. If conflicting advice is given,
one has to learn to find the answer within.
In S.Y. we learn to "act" more than to "react". Being
our own guru entails operating from within rather than
from the circumstances without. In practical terms, it
means not expecting anything from anyone but just giving
your love and service in whatever way you can. And yes,
because of the confirmation of my faith is Sri Mataji I
can keep going on. However, I don't depend on the
outward organization but rather on the inward organism
of the collective consciousness, which never lets me
down. In that organism the Paramchaitanya does
everything; I do nothing. JSM!
Lastly, Jagbir, I would like to say that SM found you
the best way for you and She found me the best way for
me; the end result is the same, isn't it!
Violet |
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