Did Shri Mataji subject us to any such demands, donations and discipline?


From: "moretothinkabout"
Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 9:05 am
Subject: Re Dronacharya's atrue Spirituality'

Esteemed Dronacharya,

What you say, and what Oko says is absolutely true. True spirituality, true meditation takes us to a place of oneness, love and forgiveness. This is what we all wanted, this is why we came to a master, this is why we tried to grow in love and surrender.

The central theme of most postings is, however, the perversion of this ideal by a false master. When you see so many people who are on the path so far away from this ideal, despite their sincerity, and when you see so many people off the path who feel they have been hurt and abused, there is naturally a need to understand and then to re-balance. That is what the discussion is about here.

Something which Sri Ramana Maharshi said struck me when I was under the control of CKG. He says that the spiritual life is not meant to add responsibilities to your life, but to relieve you of all responsibilities. I used to think of this when I was faced with the agenda that CKG imposed on all his disciples :

a) get up at 6 am with not enough sleep;
b) say endless prayers and sing endless songs;
c) feel that there was not enough time to really meditate after doing what obedience demanded (ie, these endless prayers and songs)
d) try to put in a half hour reading master's books
e) get out and run at least two miles and then, if able, get busy with classes to indoctrinate new seekers, do selfless service, organize races and runs, work to save money to visit NY, work to save money to send to master, memorize more Bengali songs, etc, etc.

When you reach the point that the Divine is the doer of every action in your life, then you can take on responsibility, because your mind and ego have indeed been relieved of it. But this is not the case with the disciples. The added responsibilities, demanded by obedience to the master, simply eat up time and energy. The inspiration of singing, for example, is completely swallowed up by having to learn and sing 100 songs in a language you do not understand in a very short space of time, to please your guru in his own way. Still, I know that trying to do it in the right spirit brings grace; we have all experienced the action of grace when we were sincere.

I came to the path with genuine aspiration, and I truly wanted deep meditation. What I got was something else. It was bait and switch, a classic case. The meditation classes seemed to promise growth in meditation, and the teacher claimed," My only fee is aspiration." The books seemed to say all the right things. Then, the reality of the path was : endless responsibility and expense and additional stress. If I did everything the master wanted, I would have been a pauper.

What is in the books, and the way the path really works are two different things. You come to the path thinking that the carrot will be delicious, and after a few sunny months of happiness, or a few years, you find yourself under the stick. And then in a noose which tightens around your neck. And then you are made to feel guilty for not recruiting enough new bodies, or doing enough postering, or going to NY often enough, or giving enough money to the master, or the centre of Mikael Gorbachev, or whoever, or doing enough running, or not organizing races, or not running the NY Marathon, or singing, or whatever (the list is endless) And the ideal of peace in the heart which Sri Ramana exemplifies, just fades into the background, and all around you, you see disciples who cannot or do not meditate any more at all. They think that the master will take care of everything. They hope to graduate into the inner circle in the hierarchy. Some of these people start doing unspiritual things to please the master in his own way, like spying on others, smuggling, falsifying information, lying to Alo, attacking targets named by the master, again, the list is endless. They think they will rise in the hierarchy this way. But it never happens, they just keep slaving away in enterprises and getting poorer as they get older, understanding that the master has said : to even think about planning for your old age is an insult to your soul. And so life goes on. Many good people are caught in this pattern, and their sincerity copes with the confusion of wanting the ideal, and being trapped in a bizarre alternative dreamed up by a false master.

True spirituality, as you say, Drona, takes us to the heart of peace and oneness where there are no casualties. But the increasing demands of an asuric guru for obedience to this relentless round of activities is totally at odds with the true ideal as expressed by Sri Ramana, or Sri Aurobindo. If you go to Ramana's ashram or Sri Aurobindo's, you see and feel the difference. Otherwise, you might never know.

Naturally, one who develops inner strength will ultimately grow into a wider range of service to the world, that is not a problem. But when you look around at all the burn-out in the faces of the CKG disciples, this is not what you see. You see people whose spiritual lives have been pre-empted by the agenda of a"master"Who wants above all to achieve fame and riches. They become oriented to pleasing him in his own way with the idea that they will be taken care of by him in the inner worlds, and that his light will make up for their inability to meditate, as long as they try to be obedient to his wishes, which as we see, often include letting him have sex with you, marrying someone you have nothing in common with, working at a job that you do not like for wages you cannot live on, taking lots of your money, most of your time, your freedom, and even the pure space in your heart where the true divine should be enshrined.

The fact that some people survive, and even make progress on this path is a testimony to the reality of Grace and the fact that true Divine Compassion finds a way to bless the sincere even if they are ruthlessly exploited by a false master. Being deprived of the conditions which would help one to enter the Divine Consciousness is the worst of the abuses perpetrated on the sincere seekers who come to the path. That is what makes the false master's deceitful agenda so perverse and dangerous.

Below, is your original letter, which can be read over and over as a reminder of what we all wanted to find when we unfortunately came under the shadow of a false master. You say it very eloquently.

> Hey, thanks Oko for the reminder. From time to time we all need to
> be redirected or reminded of the higher realm of True Spirituality
> in the HEART, in the SILENCE , in the ONENESS. Only in this realm
> is our permanent peace. No casualties here, no enemies.
>
> Probably, one of the the first duties of the Swamis, as carriers of
> the Upanishads, is to POINT to that Truth or Spirituality inside
> us all. Now, I also understand that most of the time we abide in
> lower realms, in the regular truth, or intellectual perspectives,
> like the religious persp., the legal persp., the psychological
> persp., the economic persp., and it is the individuals path
> through the so called ordinary experiences of his small mind.
>
> But it is refreshing event to think or concentrate on this Higher
> Mind, Higher Consciousness or Silence, where True Spirituality
> abides, where we are truly spiritual. I wish I could be there more
> often, but that's my aspiration. Thanks Oko.
>
> Peace and Love. Dronajorge
>





THE APOCALYPSE OF THE SPIRIT-PARACLETE
The fulfillment of the promised divine eschatological instruction
“The original meaning of the word ‘apocalypse’, derived from the Greek apokalypsis, is in fact not the cataclysmic end of the world, but an ‘unveiling’, or ‘revelation’, a means whereby one gains insight into the present.” (Kovacs, 2013, 2) An apocalypse (Greek: apokalypsis meaning “an uncovering”) is in religious contexts knowledge or revelation, a disclosure of something hidden, “a vision of heavenly secrets that can make sense of earthly realities.” (Ehrman 2014, 59)
Shri Mataji
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi (1923-2011) was Christian by birth, Hindu by marriage, and Paraclete by duty.
“The Paraclete will come (15:26; 16:7, 8, 13) as Jesus has come into the world (5:43; 16:28; 18:37)... The Paraclete will take the things of Christ (the things that are mine, ek tou emou) and declare them (16:14-15). Bishop Fison describes the humility of the Spirit, 'The true Holy Spirit of God does not advertise Herself: She effaces Herself and advertises Jesus.' ...
It is by the outgoing activity of the Spirit that the divine life communicates itself in and to the creation. The Spirit is God-in-relations. The Paraclete is the divine self-expression which will be and abide with you, and be in you (14:16-17). The Spirit's work is described in terms of utterance: teach you, didasko (14:26), remind you, hypomimnesko (14:26), testify, martyro (15:26), prove wrong, elencho (16:8), guide into truth, hodego (16:13), speak, laleo (16:13, twice), declare, anangello (16:13, 14, 15). The johannine terms describe verbal actions which intend a response in others who will receive (lambano), see (theoreo), or know (ginosko) the Spirit. Such speech-terms link the Spirit with the divine Word. The Spirit's initiatives imply God's personal engagement with humanity. The Spirit comes to be with others; the teaching Spirit implies a community of learners; forgetful persons need a prompter to remind them; one testifies expecting heed to be paid; one speaks and declares in order to be heard. The articulate Spirit is the correlative of the listening, Spirit-informed community.
The final Paraclete passage closes with a threefold repetition of the verb she will declare (anangello), 16:13-15. The Spirit will declare the things that are to come (v.13), and she will declare what is Christ's (vv. 14, 15). The things of Christ are a message that must be heralded...
The intention of the Spirit of truth is the restoration of an alienated, deceived humanity... The teaching role of the Paraclete tends to be remembered as a major emphasis of the Farewell Discourses, yet only 14:26 says She will teach you all things. (Teaching is, however, implied when 16:13-15 says that the Spirit will guide you into all truth, and will speak and declare.) Franz Mussner remarks that the word used in 14:26, didaskein, "means literally 'teach, instruct,' but in John it nearly always means to reveal.” (Stevick 2011, 292-7)
Stephen E. Witmer, Divine instruction in Early Christianity   
F. B. Meyer, Love to the Utmost Robert Kysar, John, the Maverick Gospel 
Danny Mahar, Aramaic Made EZ Lucy Reid, She Changes Everything
David Fleer, Preaching John's Gospel: The World It Imagines Berard L. Marthaler, The Creed: The Apostolic Faith in Contemporary Theology
George Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament In Spirit and Truth, Benny Thettayil
Jesus and His Own: A Commentary on John 13-17 Marianne Meye Thompson, The God of the Gospel of John
Eric Eve, The Jewish Context of Jesus' Miracles D. R. Sadananda, The Johannine Exegesis of God: an exploration into the Johannine understanding of God
Michael Welker, God the Spirit Georg Strecker, Theology of the New Testament
Tricia Gates Brown, Spirit in the writings of John Michael Welker, The work of the Spirit: pneumatology and Pentecostalism
Robert Kysar, Voyages with John: Charting the Fourth Gospel John F. Moloney, The Gospel of John
Harvey Cox, The Future of Faith Robert Kysar, John
Robert E. Picirilli, The Randall House Bible Commentary George Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament 
“The teaching of the Paraclete, as the continuation of Jesus' teaching, must also be understood as the fulfillment of the promise of eschatological divine instruction.”
Stephen E. Witmer, Divine instruction in Early Christianity

“Jesus therefore predicts that God will later send a human being to Earth to take up the role defined by John .i.e. to be a prophet who hears God's words and repeats his message to man.”
M. Bucaille, The Bible, the Qur'n, and Science

“And when Jesus foreannounced another Comforter, He must have intended a Person as distinct and helpful as He had been.”
F. B. Meyer, Love to the Utmost

“The Paraclete has a twofold function: to communicate Christ to believers and, to put the world on trial.”
Robert Kysar, John The Meverick Gospel

“But She—the Spirit, the Paraclete...—will teach you everything.”
Danny Mahar, Aramaic Made EZ)

“Grammatical nonsense but evidence of the theological desire to defeminize the Divine.”
Lucy Reid, She Changes Everything

“The functions of the Paraclete spelled out in verses 13-15... are all acts of open and bold speaking in the highest degree.”
David Fleer, Preaching John's Gospel

“The reaction of the world to the Paraclete will be much the same as the world's reaction was to Jesus.”
Berard L. Marthaler, The Creed: The Apostolic Faith in Contemporary Theology

Bultmann calls the “coming of the Redeemer an 'eschatological event,' 'the turning-point of the ages.”
G. Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament

“The Paraclete equated with the Holy Spirit, is the only mediator of the word of the exalted Christ.”
Benny Thettayil, In Spirit and Truth

“The divine Paraclete, and no lessor agency, must show the world how wrong it was about him who was in the right.”
Daniel B. Stevick , Jesus and His Own: A Commentary on John 13-17

Stephen Smalley asserts that “The Spirit-Paraclete ... in John's Gospel is understood as personal, indeed, as a person.”
Marianne Thompson, The God of the Gospel of John

“The Messiah will come and the great age of salvation will dawn (for the pious).”
Eric Eve, The Jewish context of Jesus' Miracles

“The remembrance is to relive and re-enact the Christ event, to bring about new eschatological decision in time and space.”
Daniel Rathnakara Sadananda, The Johannine Exegesis of God

“The Spirit acts in such an international situation as the revealer of 'judgment' on the powers that rule the world.”
Michael Welker, God the Spirit

The Paraclete's “Appearance means that sin, righteousness, and judgment will be revealed.”
Georg Strecker, Theology of the New Testament

“While the Spirit-Paraclete is the true broker, the brokers they rely on are impostors.”
T. G. Brown, Spirit in the writings of John

“The pneumatological activity ... of the Paraclete ... may most helpfully be considered in terms of the salvific working of the hidden Spirit.”
Michael Welker, The work of the Spirit

“The pneuma is the peculiar power by which the word becomes the words of eternal life.”
Robert Kysar, Voyages with John

“The gift of peace, therefore, is intimately associated with the gift of the Spirit-Paraclete.”
Francis J. Moloney, The Gospel of John

“This utopian hope, even when modestly expressed, links Jesus and the prophets to a much wider history of human longing.”
Harvey Cox, The Future of Faith

“Because of the presence of the Paraclete in the life of the believer, the blessings of the end-times—the eschaton—are already present.”
Robert Kysar, John

“They are going, by the Holy Spirit's power, to be part of the greatest miracle of all, bringing men to salvation.”
R. Picirilli, The Randall House Bible Commentary

“The Kingdom of God stands as a comprehensive term for all that the messianic salvation included... is something to be sought here and now (Mt. 6:33) and to be received as children receive a gift (Mk. 10:15 = Lk. 18:16-17).”
G. Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament


“But today is the day I declare that I am the one who has to save the humanity. I declare I am the one who is Adishakti, who is the Mother of all the Mothers, who is the Primordial Mother, the Shakti, the desire of God, who has incarnated on this Earth to give its meaning to itself; to this creation, to human beings and I am sure through My Love and patience and My powers I am going to achieve it.

I was the one who was born again and again. But now in my complete form and complete powers I have come on this Earth not only for salvation of human beings, not only for their emancipation, but for granting them the Kingdom of Heaven, the joy, the bliss that your Father wants to bestow upon you.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
December 2, 1979—London, UK


“I am the one about which Christ has talked... I am the Holy Spirit who has incarnated on this Earth for your realization.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
New York, USA—September 30, 1981


“Tell all the nations and tell all the people all over the Great Message that the Time of Resurrection is here. Now, at this time, and that you are capable of doing it.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
Cowley Manor Seminar, UK—July 31, 1982


“This is the transformation that has worked, of which Christ has talked, Mohammed Sahib has talked, everybody has talked about this particular time when people will get transformed.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Chistmas Puja, Ganapatipule, India—25 December 1997


“The Resurrection of Christ has to now be collective Resurrection. This is what is Mahayoga. Has to be the collective Resurrection.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Easter Puja, London, UK—11 April 1982


“Today, Sahaja Yaga has reached the state of Mahayoga, which is en-masse evolution manifested through it. It is this day�s Yuga Dharma. It is the way the Last Judgement is taking place. Announce it to all the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world, so that nobody misses the blessings of the divine to achieve their meaning, their absolute, their Spirit.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
MAHA AVATAR, ISSUE 1, JUL-SEP 1980 (Date and place unknown)


“The main thing that one has to understand is that the time has come for you to get all that is promised in the scriptures, not only in the Bible but all all the scriptures of the world. The time has come today that you have to become a Christian, a Brahmin, a Pir, through your Kundalini awakening only. There is no other way. And that your Last Judgment is also now.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi


“You see, the Holy Ghost is the Mother. When they say about the Holy Ghost, She is the Mother... Now, the principle of Mother is in every, every scripture — has to be there. Now, the Mother's character is that She is the one who is the Womb, She is the one who is the Mother Earth, and She is the one who nourishes you. She nourishes us. You know that. And this Feminine thing in every human being resides as this Kundalini.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Radio Interview Oct 01 1983—Santa Cruz, USA


“It is the Mother who can awaken the Kundalini, and that the Kundalini is your own Mother. She is the Holy Ghost within you, the Adi Shakti, and She Herself achieves your transformation. By any talk, by any rationality, by anything, it cannot be done.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi


“She is your pure Mother. She is the Mother who is individually with you. Forget your concepts, and forget your identifications. Please try to understand She is your Mother, waiting for ages to give you your real birth. She is the Holy Ghost within you. She has to give you your realization, and She's just waiting and waiting to do it.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Public Program Mar 22 1981—Sydney, Australia


“The Kundalini is your own mother; your individual mother. And She has tape-recorded all your past and your aspirations. Everything! And She rises because She wants to give you your second birth. But She is your individual mother. You don't share Her with anybody else. Yours is a different, somebody else's is different because the tape-recording is different. We say She is the reflection of the Adi Shakti who is called as Holy Ghost in the Bible.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Press Conference July 08 1999—London, UK

The Great Goddess is both wholly transcendent and fully immanent: beyond space and time, she is yet embodied within all existent beings; without form as pure, infinite consciousness (cit) ... She is the universal, cosmic energy known as Sakti, and the psychophysical, guiding force designated as the Kundalini (Serpent Power) resident within each individual. She is eternal, without origin or birth, yet she is born in this world in age after age, to support those who seek her assistance. Precisely to provide comfort and guidance to her devotees, she presents herself in the Devi Gita to reveal the truths leading both to worldly happiness and to the supreme spiritual goals: dwelling in her Jeweled Island and mergence into her own perfect being.” (Brown, 1998, 2)





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