Never heard again from WCASY # 8 Majid Golpour since April 30, 2002
"I believe Sahaja Yoga is the only spiritual/religious organization that officially endorses dishonesty and where the management condones action against those who demand full disclosure. It is when Muslim SYs start succumbing to organized and collective deception that the limit has been reached. It cannot get any worse than Muslims becoming afraid of being His messengers who must announce the Great Event ordained for humanity. The Qur'n compels the believers of the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah to do so without fear or favour, just as Shri Mataji has done for more than three decades. Yet, despite all Her efforts, Muslim leaders like Majid Golpour are still as afraid and apprehensive. This contagious disease has spread and severely wasted the collective body of the rank and file to spread Her Message to humanity. It seems they will never do so.”- Jagbir Singh
From: Majid Golpour
To: jagbir singh
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: Majid Golpour
Jai Shri Mataji
Dear Jagbir,
I am very happy to hear back from you following my own message to
you! I am a Sahaja Yogi, named by Shri Mataji as French leader, and
since 7 years I'm also responsable for SY in Iran.
If you don't mind I have a couple of questions for you after having
seen your site:
What is your connection with Sahaja Yoga in general and how much do
you contribute to the content and build of the Al-Quiammat site?
Was this site discussed with Shri Mataji before launching it?
The subject dealt with is very delicate, particularly with reference
to the name of Shri Mataji, and to do this without Her permission
could be against protocol. I could be mistaken on this, but as I
don't believe that I have had the pleasure of speaking with you
regarding the way we Sahaja Yogis should be helping pass the message
of SY to the Muslim community, I am only making presumptions.
You may be aware that a group of yogis of Muslim origin have been
working for a number of years to transmit our Divine Mother's
message to Muslims across many countries—such as Iran, India,
Algeria, Pakistan, UAE, Turkey, Malaysia, Ivory Coast and Benin, as
well as the migrant populations in Europe and the States etc... For
this reason, it is a little surprising to see a site dedicated to
this subject without consultation with the concerned yogis from
these Muslim communities.
Of course, I am in no way questioning your good intentions, but I do
feel that the tone of certain documents found on your site could
cause concern. Please could you let me know about yourself and your
aims with this site so that we can perhaps broaden the input in a
more collective manner thereby reducing the possible risks
associated with an excess of sensitive and perhaps provocatory
information for those not yet realised.
Looking forward to hearing back from you soon,
Best regards,
Majid Golpour
Dear Majid Golpour,
Jai Shri Mataji!
Greetings.
Before we proceed myself would like to let you know that a copy of this email is also being forwarded to Dr. Balwinder Singh—my brother, fellow Sahaja Yogi and an ENT specialist attached to the Putrajaya Hospital in Malaysia—who will bear witness to all that is discussed in this email. I have taken this approach because after years of contention, disbelieve and apprehension among Sahaja Yogis, especially those senior or 'in charge' of spreading Shri Mataji's Message, I want this matter to finally rest. Thus, having my brother as a highly educated third-party witness will help confirm all that I am going to say to defend myself, hopefully for the last time.
1) What is your connection with Sahaja Yoga in general?
My connection with Sahaja Yoga is that from 1993-1999 three of my children went daily into their own Sahasraras during meditation, met Shri Mataji and all the messengers of God Almighty, and informed me what was taking place. For 5 years without fail they met Shri Mataji daily.* They also answered hundreds of my questions about the Sahasrara (Kingdom of God), directly from Shri Mataji, as and when necessary. This is the only reason myself surrendered to the Truth that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is the Divine Mother who come to announce and initiate the Resurrection and Last Judgment.
You must be assured that if not for my children I would never have joined Sahaja Yoga because not only do they provide no proof that She is the Adi Shakti, but are even afraid to declare that it is the time of The Resurrection (Al-Qiyamah) and Last Judgment.
2) and how much do you contribute to the content and build of the Al- Quiammat site?
You must know that myself have written a 2,200 page book, Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom Of God, based on all that was revealed by Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, Shri Jesus, Prophet Muhammad, Shri Krishna, Shri Vishnu, Shri Ganesha, Guru Nanak and others. This book was presented to Shri Mataji in Cabella in the fall of 1999 and She was extremely pleased with it. However it just needs some minor editing by Shri Mataji, and will then be published for the general public in four parts.
If Shri Mataji has already read and approved the book for the public, which includes the chapter on Al-Qiyamah, then there should be no need for concern. Thus the question of whether it has been discussed with Shri Mataji does not arise because www.al-qiyamah.org reaches the Muslim nations in ways that is not otherwise possible. The book will probably be banned by Islamic nations who view Al- Qiyamah as Doomsday. The only alternative is the internet and that is why the www.al-qiyamah.org website was set up. In fact the internet is a much better conduit for spreading Shri Mataji's Message as it can be constantly updated with relevant and fresh information, something that a book format severely lacks.
The entire www.al-qiyamah.org is done by me. It must be mentioned here that the Qur'n specifies Allah's Signs of Qiyamah, which have all been taken place precisely as written. I bear witness to these Signs and will stand by them even on pain of death, but please do not fault me for being the bearer.
3) The subject dealt with is very delicate, particularly with reference to the name of Shri Mataji, and to do this without Her permission could be against protocol.
Majid Golpour, you are not the first person to question me about using Shri Mataji's name and about protocol, and neither will be the last. If Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is the Adi Shakti, something which you also uphold, then how does the question of protocol arise? Why must I need Her permission to announce that She is the Adi Shakti, or that it is the time of Qiyamah or that it is the Last Judgment? Protocol has nothing to do with announcing the Truth, especially if one wants to do so without any fear. Who will set the rules and regulations after She leaves? Will Sahaja Yoga turn into an organized movement in future, with those in charge setting rules, and punishment for breaking them? When will Sahaja Yogis be free to declare and announce the Adi Shakti, Qiyamah and Last Judgment openly, especially when senior Sahaja Yogis and those in charge cannot, or do not want to do so, openly? Why are we so apprehensive of the Truth? Why must hypocritical double standards be forced on others, with 'protocol' used as a tool to silence and subdue those who want the world to know that the Adi Shakti is on Earth announcing the Resurrection and Last Judgment?
Out of the thousands of Muslim visitors to the al-qiyamah site, only three had some disagreements. On the contrary, there are now a number of Islamic sites that have hosted www.al-qiyamah.org on their servers. Why are they supporting this website? It is thus surprising and disheartening that fellow Sahaja Yogis are so afraid of 'offending' fellow Muslims. What is there to offend Muslims when the Qur'n is specifically used as proof? (In the past Sahaja Yogis feared that the www.adishakti.org site would bring about a massive western media attack. Two years have passed and nothing has happened.) Why are we Sahaja Yogis so fearful of telling the world what She has told us? Has this policy of holding back information helped in any way—bring more seekers, pacified anti-sahaja yoga sites etc?
4) a little surprising to see a site dedicated to this subject without consultation with the concerned yogis from these Muslim communities.
Myself have had no idea that it was necessary to consult fellow yogis. In fact I did not even know that there was a Muslim group working to spread Sahaja Yoga to Muslim countries. (I was in Malaysia last year and there was no such group there). I have never questioned any Sahaja Yogi/Yogini on how he or she spreads Sahaja Yoga. Neither did anyone inform me that there were specific groups or committees whose permission was required to spread Sahaja Yoga, especially 'sensitive information'. Myself have never heard Shri Mataji saying that declaring She is the Adi Shakti, that it is the Last Judgment, the Time of Qiyamah, must be approved by certain yogis. This is something new to me, despite years in Sahaja Yoga.
5) tone of certain documents found on your site could cause concern.
Please let me know which are the documents and myself am willing to look into them.
6) we can perhaps broaden the input in a more collective manner thereby reducing the possible risks associated with an excess of sensitive and perhaps provocatory information for those not yet realised.
The Adi Shakti, Resurrection and Last Judgment are not provocative information. We cannot wait for humans to be realized before telling them the Truth. It has not worked in the past. Tell them the Truth first and they may seek Self-realization on their own.
Again I would like to state that myself am willing to work with anyone to spread the Message of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. I agree that at times the tone of my language is strong but so is my utter disgust and disdain for religious organizations manipulating and distorting the Truth. The fact that it is Resurrection Time only makes me all the more forthright in denouncing them. Anything less would render me a coward and hypocrite. After all Allah (SWT) compels you, as one of His many messengers of Al-Qiyamah, to announce the Resurrection without fear and uphold the Qur'n as proof His Warning! May you have the conviction and fearlessness to do so.
Jai Shri Mataji,
jagbir
Note: This quote needs a correction:
"My connection with Sahaja Yoga is that from 1993-1999 three of my children went daily into their own Sahasraras during meditation, met Shri Mataji and all the messengers of God Almighty, and informed me what was taking place. For 5 years without fail they met Shri Mataji daily.*"
Arwinder and Lalita continued meeting the Adi Shakti in their Sahasraras till late 2007. Please refer to this post:
Arwinder, what it is to be a spirit?
Re: Never heard again from WCASY # 8 Majid Golpour since April 30, 2002
—- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com," Chuck"
>
> Dear Jagbir,
>
> I am but one soul who accidentally found this site. If I was not
> told the truth from the beginning I would not be among this group
> today. I did not find anything I read to be offensive. If people
> are seeking the truth, honesty is the only way to show seekers the
> truth. Tell them the truth and they will seek self realization on
> their own. That is exactly what happened to me. I am not familiar
> with the Qur'n, but from what I have read, the Qur'n talks about
> the Resurrection and Last Judgement and also the Holy Spirit.
> Christianity talks about the Resurrection and Last Judgement and
> the Holy Spirit. If this is universal, then every seeker should
> understand this, no matter what religion they believe in.
>
> I have questions regarding different philosophies of the different
> religions that each person brings and shares with each of us at
> this forum, but I think we all agree that Adi Shatki came here on
> this earth to teach each of us that the Resurrection and Last
> Judgement is approaching quickly and the Holy Spirit is within
> each of us and how the Sahasrara is opened up within each of us.
> It is such a beautiful and joyful experience that I do not see how
> any of this could ever be against protocol. It is by asking
> questions, studying the scriptures and teachings of all religions
> and sharing these truths that people have understanding and
> knowledge. I do not want to be an infant but to be my own Guru.
> Doesn't Shri Mataji teach this?
>
> I want to personally thank you Jagbir for all of your effort you
> have contributed to this site.
>
> Love,
>
> Chuck
>
>
Dear Chuck,
Thank you for all the kind words and gratitude you have always
expressed. Many times i have felt comforted that, unlike SYs, my
efforts are contributing towards bringing seekers to this Great
Event ordained for humanity ........... and heartfelt thanks given
in return.
i too concur that"We all agree that Adi Shatki came here on this
earth to teach each of us that the Resurrection and Last Judgment is
approaching quickly and the Holy Spirit is within each of us and how
the Sahasrara is opened up within each of us. It is such a beautiful
and joyful experience that I do not see how any of this could ever
be against protocol.”Such an incarnation and spiritual guidance is
unprecedented in human history. All religions, their prophets and
holy scriptures harmoniously and collectively triumph in this Great
Event. What then is the fear and possession that prevents so-called
World Council members from sharing this beautiful and joyful
experience with the rest of humanity?
For some unknown reason the management SYs are actively seeking out
and slandering those who are of that opinion. The excuse they used
in the past was that the religious institutions and their followers
will be outraged and the media will attack Sahaja Yoga and Shri
Mataji. That is why an extraordinary effort and pressure was exerted
on me by leaders in 1999 to stop my setting up the websites.
But nothing adverse have happened despite the strong language and
unrestrained honesty. On the contrary seekers began writing that
they appreciated the wealth of knowledge available, knowledge that
made them understand their own religions and scriptures better.
However, management SYs, instead of admitting they made an error of
judgment, they have spread lies and misinformation behind Shri
Mataji's back to prevent the rank and file SYs from reading the
websites. They just do not share Her great pleasure, explicit public
approval and happiness that a miraculous work has been accomplished,
a work that will challenge humanity. They just are unhappy that:
“Once this book is out all over the world, it will be known about
our Work. We'll not be challenged any more. But still we have to see
for ourselves, that if we have this kind of recognition or not, our
capabilities should be up to that.” (Shri Mataji)
However, Shri Mataji knew what obstacles laid ahead and hinted"But
still we have to see for ourselves, that if we have this kind of
recognition or not.” That was more than 7 years ago and management
SYs still do not share, less believe, Shri Mataji's lasting legacy
to humanity.
Chuck, it is only people like you and Violet and others here who are
going to collectively declare that the"Adi Shatki came here on this
earth to teach each of us that the Resurrection and Last Judgment is
approaching quickly and the Holy Spirit is within each of us and how
the Sahasrara is opened up within each of us.”
“Your job is, in a way, greater than the saints and sages. The
saints and sages did not give Realization to anyone. They gave
lectures, tried to make people understand. Your job is that you have
to awaken the Kundalini in people and make them Self-Realized, and
resurrect the whole world. This is an extremely important and Divine
Job, and for this Adi Shakti Herself had to come.” (Shri Mataji)
It is indeed such a beautiful and joyful experience to give to
humanity. Truth always triumphs, and will eventually overcome all
obstacles, negativity and resistance from those who are trying to
suppress it. All we need is to hold our ground and let time take its
toll.
with love and best wishes,
jagbir
According to Wikipedia "followers of Islam, known as Muslims,
believe that God (or, in Arabic, Allah; also in Aramaic Alaha)
revealed his direct word for mankind to Muhammad (c. 570—632) and
other prophets, including Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus.
Muslims believe that Muhammad is the last or the seal of the
Prophets. Thus, his preachings for humankind will last until qiyamah
(The Day of the Resurrection). Muslims assert that the main written
record of revelation to humankind is the Qur'n (see below), which
they believe to be flawless, immutable, and the final revelation of
God to humanity. Muslims believe that parts of the Gospels, Torah
and Jewish prophetic books (though originally divine in their
nature) have been forgotten, misinterpreted, incorrectly edited by
humans, or distorted by their followers and thus their original
message has been corrupted over time. With that perspective, Muslims
view the Qur'n as a correction of Jewish and Christian scriptures,
and a final revelation.
Muslims hold that Islam is essentially the same belief as that of
all the messengers sent by God to mankind since Adam, with the
Qur'an (the one definitive text of the Muslim faith) codifying the
final revelation of God. Islamic texts depict Judaism and
Christianity as derivations of the teachings of the prophet Abraham
and thus acknowledges their Abrahamic roots, whilst the Qur'n calls
Jews and Christians (and sometimes people of other faiths)"People
of the Book. ...
Most Muslims regard paper copies of the Qur'n with extreme
veneration, wrapping them in a clean cloth, keeping them on a high
shelf, and washing as for prayers before reading the Qur'n. Old
Qur'ns are not destroyed as wastepaper, but burned or deposited in
Qur'n graveyards.
Most Muslims memorize at least some portion of the Qur'n in the
original language. Those who have memorized the entire Qur'n are
known as hafiz. This is not a rare achievement; it is believed that
there are millions of hafiz alive today.”(End)
i know for a fact that Muslims take immense pride in their great
faith that springs forth from the Qur'n. Many of them are prepared
to willingly die for its cause and will go to great length to
announce their beliefs.
But in Sahaja Yoga even Muslims like Majid Golpour gradually lose
the formidable strength of their faith, and succumb to the corruption
of the Truth. Perhaps such corruption, caution and cowardice to
state the Truth is required for council member seats. Maybe WCASY
should seek a second opinion as to what Shri Mataji was telling SYs
to do nearly 25 years ago:
“Now you can announce the Truth, that you are realized souls, that
you have felt this Divine power which is prevailing everywhere; that
you can give realisation to others and know that, by your accepting
the Truth, you are not adding anything to the Truth, but are
adorning yourself. One requires courage to enjoy the Truth.
Sometimes people may mock at you, laugh at you, and persecute you
also, but that should not be any worry to you because your
relationship is with the statutes, with the Grace of God. When that
is your connection, you should not worry about other people and what
they have to say about it. You have to stand up, adorn yourself with
that Truth, and talk to people and people will know that you have
found it.”
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi (1981-09, Enjoy the Truth)
i believe Sahaja Yoga is the only spiritual/religious organization
that officially endorses dishonesty and where the management condones
action against those who demand full disclosure. It is when Muslim
SYs start succumbing to organized and collective deception that the
limit has been reached. It cannot get any worse than Muslims
becoming afraid of being His messengers who must announce the Great
Event ordained for humanity. The Qur'n compels the believers of the
Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah to do so without fear or favour, just
as Shri Mataji has done for more than three decades. Yet, despite
all Her efforts, Muslim leaders like Majid Golpour are still as
afraid and apprehensive. This contagious disease has spread and
severely wasted the collective body of the rank and file to spread
Her Message to humanity. It seems they will never do so.
But Shri Mataji will accomplish Her mission no matter how many SYs
follow the official organized version of truth as stated on their
websites. Perhaps the latest WebSearch results reflect that promise:
www.adishakti.org
1 week avg: 144,141
3 months avg: 196,029
3 month's change: + 110,827
www.sahajayoga.org
1 week avg: 707,113
3 months avg: 252,024
3 month's change: - 39,156
regards to all,
jagbir
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