Memories of our Divine Mother: 2. THE BEGINNINGS IN ENGLAND

The Great Adi Shakti Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
The Paraclete Shri Mataji

1) Douglas Fry said:

I've found this new sort of yoga

First of all, the area where I used to live was round by Euston, near Tolmers Square [in London] and that area was a sort of high energy area. There were a lot of squatters and things like that there. We used to have a little community club there and one day [in 1973] this fellow turned up" " Mukund Shah" " to teach us yoga. Over a year he tried all sorts of different yoga and meditation and then one day he went to see Shri Mataji and, because he had so much experience of so many sorts of yoga, he tended to be a bit skeptical and he felt vibrations, but not to sort of quantify it.

So he had this group of half a dozen of us that he used to teach yoga. So he said," Look, I've found this new sort of yoga and all we have to do is sit down in front of this photograph of Shri Mataji and put your hands to it.”And he produced a little black and white photograph. It wasn't much bigger than a postcard. And we sat there in his rather cold draughty, old bank that we used to use as a social club and we sat there with our hands like this before Shri Mataji's photograph. There was about five or six of us. And he came round and felt our hands and asked us what we felt and we all felt different sorts of things because we were all in different sorts of states of awareness due to what we'd done before. And anyway, we all obviously felt something and he said," You get these vibrations from Shri Mataji. Would you like to come and meet Her at the Bharata Vidya Bhavan?”[which was at that time on New Oxford Street].

Well, the following Friday, I believe, we went off to the Bharata Vidya Bhavan and we met Shri Mataji and we just sort of sat there at the back and listened to what She had to say and we realized it was something really nice. And She was working on somebody at the time. At that particular point we were aware that it was something special, but we had an inkling of what it might be, but weren't prepared to admit to anybody, least of all ourselves, that we had actually met Adi Shakti. But I think, basically, we knew that it was special.

Then we went to Bharata Vidya Bhavan about two or three times and then, because we wanted to go somewhere else, because the series was over, we moved to a house in Clare Court, Judd Street, where Mukund Shah used to live just over the road from Kings Cross. We had a few meetings there and Shri Mataji told us about raising kundalini and this is one of the first experiences we had of actually hearing through Sahasrara. She told us all our Sahasraras were open and She said," Put your hands over your ears and cover them up completely and you'll still be able to hear Me.”And we could. We had our hands over our ears and we could actually clearly hear what Shri Mataji was saying because we were hearing through our Sahasraras. Our Sahasraras had actually opened. So that was perhaps the first experience, apart from feeling the vibrations, that was one of the real amazing, first amazing experience we had.

Now we had a few meetings at this Judd Street, but then, because the fellow that took us there was going to leave, we had to find somewhere else and we started to meet in a house in North Gower Street. And when we met in North Gower Street, I think that's when it actually began to take root. Because there it had got a base for the Sahaja Yoga to actually put roots down. Then what would happen would be that Shri Mataji would come round and She would sit there and there'd be maybe half a dozen of us and Shri Mataji would talk to us and tell us all about Sahaja Yoga and the way She'd work on us would be that we would put our hands under Her Feet and She'd sort of do various bits and pieces to clear us out. Because there was so few of us, within a couple of days we'd be caught up again which was rather sad, but it just shows the sort of state we were in.

Douglas Fry

2) Pat Anslow said:

How could someone like this be here?

Actually, I'd seen Shri Mataji's photograph before I met Mother. I'd left that yoga group before you brought the photo. I'd moved over to Baker Street and I did notice the photograph appearing, being kind of furtively concealed from me and I did hear about Shri Mataji, but I didn't hear anything that direct about it. But then I just said that I'd like to come and see Her. I'd heard about these meetings and I came to the last meeting at Judd Street. One damp Sunday afternoon" " raining" " and I came with [my sister] Maureen [Rossi]. It had a huge impact on me because I'd heard that there was a yogi lady and I had this kind of idea that I'd walk into a room full of sort of silence and perhaps little bells tinkling somewhere and I walked in the room. And it was so unlike what I'd expected that the effect on me was really quite profound. I immediately felt that this is what it must have been like to come across Christ teaching in the marketplace. It completely hit me like that, which was quite strange because I didn't have any kind of religious" " you know, religion wasn't part of my life. Quite the opposite, I was coming from a hippie background. And I just felt that here was an amazing personality and my feeling was," How can a being like this exist? How could someone like that be here?”And the whole room seemed full of light and there was a tremendous impression of how powerful Shri Mataji was, but She was just very sweet. She asked us to come and see Her and I came up and She put Her hand on me and said," This one's sick," I think were the first words She said to me. And the meeting went on. It was just really amazing" " quite magical, the whole thing. I didn't really have a chance to figure out what it was all about, but I knew it was something quite momentous. That was the first meeting.

She said I was sick and that I needed something for my stomach and She asked for a bottle and the strange thing was" " no one else seemed to see this" " but I saw Her take the bottle, turn round and open a sort of door into some kind of an atomic furnace and put the bottle in, take it out, shut the door and give it to me. And I was quite astonished. And I took it home, drank it and it had the most extraordinary effect. It cleared me out. She said I had six months to live. Yes, I was really in quite a bad way.

We went back for more meetings and I had a whole series of extraordinary experiences when She was there, but I think the thing that really hit me was a kind of gut reaction, a kind of recognition that this was someone. I kept getting the feeling that this was someone like Christ. That was the feeling that I had. And I was trying to kind of see how that made sense and fitted in.

Pat Anslow

3) Maureen Rossi said:

I had no idea what I had but I knew I had it

It was the 16th September 1975 that we first met Shri Mataji in that [Judd Street] flat and, similar to [my brother] Pat [Anslow], it couldn't have helped being a most momentous feeling. Even walking up the street to go to that flat, I had this strongest urge to run away I've ever had in my life. Even though I didn't know where I was going and I had only been told that," This lady is a yoga teacher, but she doesn't teach Hatha Yoga.”But I can remember thinking that if I wasn't with people that I felt would say," What on Earth are you up to?”I'd have run away. That's how strong I could feel the force I was walking towards.

And when we went in the flat and we were told to take off our shoes, which was strange, and told to sit down and I saw Shri Mataji working on this Indian gentleman, very strongly and sort of telling him off and sorting him out, I thought She was a Goddess. That was my first thought that came into my head and then I thought," What on Earth do I mean by that? I don't even know what a Goddess is.”But that's what it felt like. And then She got on with seeing to everybody and when my turn came, if you like, She actually got up and walked around, as well as sat down, and She told me to put my hands out and asked me what I felt and that second I felt my attention drawn to my hands and said," Oh, I feel something.”And She just said," May God bless you. You've got it.”And I thought," I've got it.”I had no idea what I had, but I knew I had it. And that was it. And She then went on to everybody else. It was just great. I was dealt with.

Maureen Rossi

4) Kevin Anslow said:

It's great being a kid

I got my Realization when I was seven years old. I was born in '68 and got my Realization in '75. The first time I met Mother was quite a marked memory. My father, Pat [Anslow], used to bring me up to London at that time, sometimes for the weekend. I used to live with my grandparents until my father was remarried. He first met Shri Mataji about that time. So he brought me up and said I was going to meet this very special Indian lady. I had never actually met an Indian lady of any description before that point, which made it a little bit daunting actually, coming from a middle class commuter town just near Brighton. He took me up to London, and that was a special thing in itself, and we got there and Shri Mataji was very different from what I imagined because Indian ladies to me would have been a distant person in a sari. There was not a person behind that, more a sort of image.

And there was this quite remarkable lady who was very friendly. And instead of me being all sort of anxious and kind of not knowing what to do because it was a strange adult, it was really rather fun. People who remember seeing Mother with children" " I mean, She sort of comes alive and says," Really?”And that sort of tone that She takes. She really sort of gets their attention and makes them feel comfortable and sort of creates this instantaneous connection. So it was a bit like that.

She asked me questions and Her eyes kind of lit up and there was a huge smile and for some mysterious reason" " being an adult now, I can't remember the logic behind it, if there was any" " I decided I had to be an elephant. So I got these" " it was in this flat in Gower Street where this Sahaja Yogi at the time, he had this" " well, what I think of now as rather unpleasant seventies-style furniture, including these wickerwork drinks things. You kind of put your drinks inside. I turned these things upside down and stuck them on my feet and legs and kind of roared around the room and pretended to be an elephant.

When I did this Mother just pitched Her head back with laughter and laughed and laughed and laughed. And my father, I think, was horrified, sort of"Oh no, what's he doing.”But She really took it on board and She really brought the situation alive and made it all rather fun. And there was no sort of anxiety or anything like that. I mean, it's great being a kid, I suppose. With Shri Mataji, you don't have to think," Do I have to be this or that?”You just sort of are, if you know what I mean.

Kevin Anslow

5) Miodrag Radosavljevic said:

I realized this lady was something very high

My first reaction to Mother was that I felt that I had met this lady before. And I thought I had seen Her in Oxford Street [in London], in a shop somewhere. That was my first impression. And She just touched my hand and said," You will be all right. You are not all right now, but you will be all right.”So I went home and had a shower. I was alone at that moment, in the house I was sharing with some people. All of a sudden, I went completely thoughtless. I wanted to think, but I couldn't. So I knew I had to lie down, so I lay on the bed and closed my eyes. I was aware of this energy rising up through my stomach and then all the way to my chest and then on to the top of my head like a sort of crown. And my body felt very light and I felt totally in the bliss. So I realized that this lady was something very high and I never experienced that before. So that was my first experience of Sahaja Yoga. It took a long time and is still taking a long time to correct all of my problems.

Miodrag Radosavljevic

6) Pat Anslow said:

What on Earth can I do with them?

One thing we should perhaps say more about was just how amazing Mother was with us in our ignorance of any kind of protocol or anything. We had no idea how to behave with Her and we had no idea how to behave with each other, never mind with Shri Mataji. She was just so amazing. She just must have put Herself out so much, in so many ways. It was just incredible. We would argue about everything, every point. She would debate everything with us. We were obviously very impressed with Her and we could see that what Mother was saying was enlightening and amazing, but there was still lots of ideas we had which we didn't agree about and we would argue about all kinds of things.

Shri Mataji would resolve that by patiently going through every point and explain. Really, Mother put Herself into quite a rough kind of environment. Gavin and Jane [Brown] were sort of respectable, but the rest of us weren't. We all came from a hippie background.

Pat Anslow

7) Gregoire de Kalbermatten said:

I am back home

I remember entering in Her house in Oxted [in 1975]. I was in jeans and was wearing an old US Army jacket full of holes. I kissed Her hand and gave Her flowers. Interestingly, I remember bowing and looking at the ground, so spontaneously. She commanded immediate respect. But my heart felt such a relief almost immediately.

It is hard to say when exactly I started recognizing Mother, but clearly the heart was faster than the brain. It was greatly helped, no doubt, by the contagious feeling of lightness and joy, an enveloping feeling of affection and wellbeing that made you feel," I am back home! Home, sweet home!"

Gregoire de Kalbermatten

8) Pat Anslow said:

My first memory of Gregoire

My first memory of Gregoire [de Kalbermatten]" " he came over and he had met Mother and he was staying in the area and he had seen Her several times. He came to one of the meetings at Gavin and Jane's and on that particular day the whole place was full of people who used drugs. Mother was arguing with them and saying it was bad and they were saying," No it is absolutely not true. You can experience this. You can experience that.”At one stage, I'll never forget it, Mother just sort of hugged Herself and seemed to be saying," What on Earth can I do with them?”She looked forlorn really and so unhappy. It just hit me then. I was looking at this scene and it was just like a mother with her children. It was the first time I really felt that She was like a mother. She had been saying," You must stop taking drugs.”So I saw this and said," Okay, I'll do it.”And immediately all these other people turned around and glared at me. It just really hit me. And Gregoire was on his knees saying," Mother, you must forgive them. They know not what they do" "" very dramatic, but very true. He understood what was going on.

Pat Anslow

9) Gregoire de Kalbermatten said:

Only meditation did help destroy the addictions

When Mother named me leader of the USA for a brief period, She told," You are quite qualified for this because you know hell best.” It is true that before Sahaja I had experimented with many forms of adharma, but had also discovered their limitations. I mean, I felt like the Rolling Stones," I can't get no satisfaction.”And I was tired to keep trying. So, for me, it was not at all a problem to change my lifestyle after meeting Mother. The way She presented it made full sense, while the moral teachers of my past could not explain why I should not do something I fancied doing. I had done it all and I knew it was dust.

On one hand I finally understood from Mother why virtue was good for me. But, all the same, I did not know how to purify my attention right away and only meditation did help destroy the addictions.

Gregoire de Kalbermatten

10) Kevin Anslow said:

She had to be very patient with them

I remember Her being quite stern with the early Sahaja Yogis at times. She could be incredibly humourous and very warm, but quite stern when She needed to be. She was very much a mother figure in every way in those days. The early Sahaja Yogis hadn't developed this basic discretion. Like one chap went off to try the vibrations of the graveyard. He came back and Mother had to work on him for hours on end.”What did you do this for?”And he just couldn't explain it. Oh, things like an early Sahaja Yogi went off somewhere and She bought a necklace and Mother was saying," Well, you've got to try the vibrations of things.”And She said," This thing, there's something not quite right.”And She got her to get a bucket of water and stuck this necklace in the water and the water turned black, like this black cloud came out of it. And She said," Ah!"like She does and"See!"And they saw, but they didn't learn that quickly. She had to be very patient with them.

Kevin Anslow

11) Maureen Rossi said:

A different universe altogether

Mother arranged this weekend at Her house at Hurst Green" " Icehouse Wood, Hurst Green in Sussex [near Oxsted]. We all went down there by train. It was extraordinary because it was this very strange collection of people in an extremely nice neighbourhood, extremely nice and" " Shri Mataji once described it" " not even a rat was allowed to enter in or would enter in because the houses there were so perfect. They never had visitors let alone about fifteen straggling, hippie-type people dressed in jeans and any old gear. There was a big drawing room downstairs with beautiful Indian rugs and things like that and then this room up the stairs that was on the mezzanine room" " very sunny and there were large statues of deities, a beautiful Shri Ganesha there.

Maureen Rossi

12) Djamel Metouri said:

Being of a Muslim background I didn't react

Pat [Anslow] took me to somewhere upstairs on the first floor and showed me this big statue of Shri Ganesha. And he said," See this statue has such vibrations.”And I said," Hang on.”I didn't sort of react. Being from a Muslim background, being of a Muslim background, I thought," What is he talking about? What is he talking about?”So I tried just feeling the vibrations, while stepping back. And it did have vibrations. That is the wooden statue we had in Chelsham Road [ashram in London].

One of the things that struck me also in the house of Mother, was that it looked and felt as if every statue that She had in the house was vibrating with power. And everywhere you went, you felt a kind of silent, peaceful, but extremely powerful environment, which is very difficult to describe, except to say that you knew something very powerful was working very deep inside you and working it out. And yet, you were in the middle of this and you felt you were in a different universe altogether.

Djamel Metouri

13) Maureen Rossi said:

That was the absolute minute attention She'd give us.

And Shri Mataji worked on us and talked to us and there was this incredible smell of Indian cooking for about three hours. We were all dying of hunger. They started cooking so early and then I started to be ill. I had to keep rushing off and being ill, but I felt brilliant. It was just a fantastic clearout and then everybody went down to this big drawing room and fell asleep on the floor" " and we've got pictures of these bodies all over this floor" " just everywhere.

Again, then we had another session with Shri Mataji working on us and I had to keep dashing in and out, but it was like being totally divorced from the actual bodily feeling. I felt fantastic. The house had almost like a balcony inside that ran round and went off all the rooms.

But because I'd been ill, Shri Mataji said," Maureen, you can come and sleep in My room.”And when it came to bedtime, I tried to hide behind everybody because I was convinced that Shri Mataji disappeared when She went out of the room. She went up these stairs curved round the middle of the house and She went half up the stairs and spotted me and hauled me out from the crowd and I was so scared as to what was going to happen and anyway She had this enormous lovely bed. Being from a sort of hippie background, I hadn't come with nightclothes that were particularly smart or anything and She dressed me in petticoats and cardigans. And She worked on my back all night in Her sleep and I kept having to get up to be sick. And She snored and then She'd stop snoring and say," That's better now.”And then She'd carry on putting Her hand on my back and various places and then She'd snore for a bit longer and then stop and say," How do you feel now?”And it just went on all night and in the morning I was allowed to have bananas and cardamom seeds. That was the absolute minute attention She'd give us.

It's just incredible to think of Her doing that for us and then She went to India for about six months and we used to meet together, a handful of us, to try to meditate, but we weren't very good at all. And Shri Mataji, before She went, had said," You can come to India next year when I go" " with Me and meet all the Sahaja Yogis there.” So we started saving and when She came back we were in such a state She said," Forget it. You're not up to it.”But then She again started meeting us each week, generally on a Sunday or Saturday, and She again had us to Her house.

Maureen Rossi

14) Kevin Anslow said:

How am I going to visit you?

We went to Her house in Oxted, but I can remember patchy things because I was quite young at the time. One of them was that I used to love drawing maps" " I still do, actually" " and I do them for the sort of stories that I write now. But in those days I used to draw maps and I had no idea why. And I drew this map which had some islands. There was an island for me and an island for Shri Mataji. So She said," Well that's no good because how am I going to visit you?”And I said," Well, I can't take the train.”So I said," Well, what about an underground train?”So Mother said," Okay, that's fine.”So, with Her direction, we drew in this little sort of underground train track. That solved the problem.

Kevin Anslow

15) Djamel Metouri said:

She gave us so much affection

Now we are talking about early days and for me early days was the spring and summer of 1977. What is special about the early days is that Shri Mataji had just a few Sahaja Yogis. She hadn't got many. She is trying to bring them up to the level where they can be strong enough so we can then expand our collectivity.

When I arrived, probably about six or seven people" " I was probably the eighth. Some of us in those days have left. I guess I remember how She worked on an Australian boy, Gus, for so many weeks. She took him home. She looked after him. She cured him. He was like an encyclopedia of drugs. He was really bad. He had so many problems and She worked on him day in and day out, every day. She never spared any effort. The most extraordinary thing is that She gave him all the love and, after three months, he just left. He left Sahaja Yoga. He could have, in fact, stayed and She never said. In fact, She said," Okay.”When you look at it from our point of view, he wasted Mother's efforts. But She never actually talked about it that way. To Her, She just gave love and that love, there was no condition put on it.

The most extraordinary thing about Shri Mataji is Her capacity as a Mother to basically" " to nourish the Sahaja Yogis who came at that time. To nourish them with enough love so they stayed in Sahaja Yoga, so they felt" " maybe She gives us what we didn't have, so, as Sai Nath of Shirdi said," We may want what She wants to give us.”And She worked tirelessly, taking us to Her home. She never hesitated to cook for us. Just think, the Adi Shakti in Her home, cooking for the few of us. There may have been seven, eight, nine, even ten Sahaja Yogis. She would, Herself, cook food for us because obviously She wanted to put those vibrations in our in Nabhis. She wanted to improve our Nabhis, which were in such a state anyway. And the way She actually received us in Her home, whether it be the house She had in Hurst Green or in the flat in Ashley Gardens, in those days, She always had" " She did everything. She gave us so much affection.

Djamel Metouri

16) Miodrag Radosavljevic said:

Truly like a mother

Shri Mataji used to cook for us and vibrate lemons for us and She would work on us constantly and effortlessly and all the time. Every week She would come into the ashram and would work on our chakras and check our vibrations and see how we were doing. So She was really truly like a mother, taking care of us.

Miodrag Radosavljevic

17) Ray Harris said:

She'd buy the jackets and the ties for us

Shri Mataji would actually go out to a shop. I know because She took me out and She took several other people out. She'd give them Sir CP's second-hand, old ties and Sir CP, Her husband, was very much the head of the IMO [International Maritime Organization], so totally opposite from us. He was one of the highest placed people in international society and we were dug up from a gutter somewhere, relatively speaking. I remember I got a tie. She'd always give ties to people at pujas. She'd give ties, jackets, clothes. She took me out and bought a jacket for me. She bought clothes for my sister. She must have spent well over a hundred pounds on clothes. That was down Brick Lane [in the East End of London].

Ray Harris

18) Vicky Halperin said:

I didn't really understand what the protocol was

Incredibly cheap, She'd bought me a dress and I don't think anybody had bought me anything since I'd been a child and I was" " I didn't know how to take it. I didn't know if I was supposed to pay for it. I didn't really understand what the protocol was for that moment. I said I couldn't accept it. I wanted to pay and She let me. And then She got another one. So I got two.

Vicky Halperin

19) Ray Harris said:

She would never take money

Yes, She would never take money. That was the difference. You'd hear of gurus and people they have. They're always taking money off them. You give them everything. I tried to pay Shri Mataji back for the clothes She bought my sister, Sharon [Vincent], and She just threw it away, said," Don't be silly. What are you doing? I don't want your money. Don't be silly.”

Ray Harris

20) Vicky Halperin said:

She said," You can't treat Me like the gurus.”

When I bought Her a gift, She asked me if I was being patronizing. She didn't want gifts. She said," You can't treat Me like the gurus.” It was inappropriate to buy individual gifts. I think at some point later we were told that collective gifts were appropriate and individual gifts were not appropriate. I mean, I think Mother went from my house and I had big tears in my eyes at the thought that I'd offended Her and I really didn't. I'd wanted to do the opposite.

Vicky Halperin

21) Douglas Fry said:

We felt what Shri Mataji felt

We were painting various bits of the house [Hurst Green in Sussex in about 1974]. Now one particular experience that I remember was that Shri Mataji went out with Mr. Srivastava to go to a meeting, a reception of some sort. He was at that time the director-general of IMCO [International Maritime Consultative Organization] and She left us. We were just cleaning this wall and painting it. About half way through the night we suddenly got this terrific headache and it felt really strange, but we just carried on working. So it passed.

So when Shri Mataji came home and asked us how we were, I said," I got this really terrible headache halfway through. I didn't know what was happening.”And She said," Oh, what happened was that we were at this reception and somebody, by mistake, gave me a glass of wine and I drank it.”

So what happened was we felt the effects of the wine that Shri Mataji drank. Because it had an effect on the unconscious and we actually felt it from Her. So obviously, at that time, we were in such deep meditation that we actually felt what Shri Mataji felt through the collective unconscious. That was quite an amazing experience.

Douglas Fry

22) Pat Anslow said:

She tried all kinds of different things

One of the most memorable things for me took place at Oxted, at the house there. We spent actually quite a lot of time there and Mother, as we say, the attention. I mean, She used to cook for us. There were servants there who cooked, but sometimes She'd cook specially for us and She would work on us. It was so intensive. You'd bow down with your hands under Mother's Feet and the other Sahaja Yogis would be gathered around and it would literally sometimes go on for hours" " just to clear one person out. And they'd be down for that length of time with their head on Mother's Feet. She tried all kinds of different things, mostly just looking after us in beautiful ways.

I remember once She gave me a head massage with oil and we'd do odd jobs sometimes around the house. I remember once we were sandpapering something ready to paint and Mother came over and joined in, got a bit of sandpaper and sandpapered with us. And the meals used to be the most memorable, weren't they? We were really spoiled, spoiled rotten.

I remember one day I turned up at Her house and She said," You just go out. I clear you out and you just get caught up.”And She made me lie down in front of Her and took Her shoe and actually shoe-bashed my spine" " very hard" " hard enough for me to see stars. And that worked. I felt very clear after that.

Pat Anslow

23) Kevin Anslow said:

She tried things out with people

She used to give me little presents sometimes. It's so fragmentary because it's a long, long time ago. I tend to find these memories sort of suddenly come to me, but then they vanish again. I remember in Gower Street Shri Mataji used to" " well, my father says it was somewhere else" " well, the older Sahaja Yogis at the time were a collection of ex-hippies and I was younger and clearer. They had had a bit of a wild time and it had sort of left its imprint on their chakras. Shri Mataji sometimes used to use me to sort of try things out or to clear things out. She discovered the neck crick on me. This is a form of treatment which no longer exists, I think because some of the people got rather damaged necks when they did it to each other. But Shri Mataji had me sitting down and said," I've discovered this great new treatment for the Vishuddhi.”And She got my head and went"huwhump!"And it went"Click!"And I screamed and was in absolute outrage, but She found it very amusing.

There was this sense that Sahaja Yoga was sort of experimental. She tried things out with people. She would get them to do things and see if it worked or not. I mean, I think it sort of goes on, on a larger scale, as well today.

Kevin Anslow

24) Douglas Fry said:

One is power and one is purity

Because I wasn't properly centred, I had a bit of an Agnya problem at that time. I used to see Shri Mataji flash from different colours. She used to go this beautiful rainbow green and this beautiful rainbow red and I'd just see this light sort of flashing from Her. But apparently the reason for that was because I had an Agnya problem. I mentioned this to Shri Mataji and She said," You shouldn't actually see that.”She said," One is power and one is purity.”I could actually see them, but She said," If you can actually see those colours, it means you are not actually in the centre. You are off to one side.”

Douglas Fry

25) Kevin Anslow said:

I was seeing Mother as a child would

I was seeing Mother as a child would. I mean every time I saw Her, I would run up and hug Her. It is not something you get to do when you get older. There was a definite change of protocol there. And I do remember that as I got older, I was not quite aware of this protocol and not knowing what to make of it, particularly as the Sahaja Yogis were sort of intellectually engaging with it in some sort of sense. But I do remember that I could sort of run up and hug Mother. She was sort of like a big friend. It was very different. She was very accessible in those days to people and yet it didn't quite have the intensity that people have in encounters with Mother in more recent times or as time went on.

I remember my Aunt Maureen [Rossi] saying that She was very direct and sociable, especially with the ladies, in a way that She wasn't with the men. But, generally speaking, like in talks and things, you will notice that at a certain moment some aspect of Her will come out, something very serious and quite didactic and sometimes a great jocularity. She did have that, but it was very much more toned down in those days. I think people were perhaps not up to the scope of Her manifesting these things in their fuller sense.

Kevin Anslow

26) Djamel Metouri said:

I am like the source

I also remember this meeting we had with Mother. She gave us this sort of meditation in Her lounge, you know, where we were seven or eight people. We were Maureen, Gus, from the early days, Pat, Douglas. At some stage Mother was trying to sort of teach us who She was, trying to tell us who She was. And then She said," The power of God actually just goes to the back of Me. I am like the source and it's just flowing behind Me.”And that is when we started realizing that Mother was trying to tell us who She was. And then She was trying to work on our Mooladharas. And Gus was saying that he saw Mother as Shri Ganesha, He was quite struck by it and he was very surprised. He hadn't seen Mother in that aspect.

Djamel Metouri

27) Gregoire de Kalbermatten said:

The shoes of the Adi Shakti

I believe I saw from the very first days the colossal meaning of what Shri Mataji was doing. I recognized She brings the total, the grand revolution, the most radical factor of global change for mankind. The French and Russian revolutions are nothing compared to this! On the other hand, I was looking around me. How on Earth and in the heavens are we going to get there? This was the problem and the tension within me. It was like being at the bottom of a huge rock and not knowing how to climb it.

I remember one day in August 1975, in the house of Shri Mataji in Hurst Green, there were about seven Sahaja Yogis around the table. Needless to say, in those days we were all new and there was nobody else. Shri Mataji started putting Her shoes on the table" " very nice and elegant ones, no doubts! But, of course, we did not know then that Mother was doing it because the vibrations from Her shoes are so powerful. So I was looking at a bunch of stunned people, sitting around a table looking at pairs of shoes on the table and thinking," Is it with this lot we are going to change the world?”My mistake was to focus on the people, not the shoes. I did not know what shoes can do if these are the shoes of the Adi Shakti. And if the world, indeed, will be transformed, let us handle these shoes with the feelings that Bharat had in handling the shoes of his brother, Shri Rama.

Gregoire de Kalbermatten

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The fulfillment of the promised divine eschatological instruction
“The original meaning of the word ‘apocalypse’, derived from the Greek apokalypsis, is in fact not the cataclysmic end of the world, but an ‘unveiling’, or ‘revelation’, a means whereby one gains insight into the present.” (Kovacs, 2013, 2) An apocalypse (Greek: apokalypsis meaning “an uncovering”) is in religious contexts knowledge or revelation, a disclosure of something hidden, “a vision of heavenly secrets that can make sense of earthly realities.” (Ehrman 2014, 59)
Shri Mataji
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi (1923-2011) was Christian by birth, Hindu by marriage, and Paraclete by duty.
“The Paraclete will come (15:26; 16:7, 8, 13) as Jesus has come into the world (5:43; 16:28; 18:37)... The Paraclete will take the things of Christ (the things that are mine, ek tou emou) and declare them (16:14-15). Bishop Fison describes the humility of the Spirit, 'The true Holy Spirit of God does not advertise Herself: She effaces Herself and advertises Jesus.' ...
It is by the outgoing activity of the Spirit that the divine life communicates itself in and to the creation. The Spirit is God-in-relations. The Paraclete is the divine self-expression which will be and abide with you, and be in you (14:16-17). The Spirit's work is described in terms of utterance: teach you, didasko (14:26), remind you, hypomimnesko (14:26), testify, martyro (15:26), prove wrong, elencho (16:8), guide into truth, hodego (16:13), speak, laleo (16:13, twice), declare, anangello (16:13, 14, 15). The johannine terms describe verbal actions which intend a response in others who will receive (lambano), see (theoreo), or know (ginosko) the Spirit. Such speech-terms link the Spirit with the divine Word. The Spirit's initiatives imply God's personal engagement with humanity. The Spirit comes to be with others; the teaching Spirit implies a community of learners; forgetful persons need a prompter to remind them; one testifies expecting heed to be paid; one speaks and declares in order to be heard. The articulate Spirit is the correlative of the listening, Spirit-informed community.
The final Paraclete passage closes with a threefold repetition of the verb she will declare (anangello), 16:13-15. The Spirit will declare the things that are to come (v.13), and she will declare what is Christ's (vv. 14, 15). The things of Christ are a message that must be heralded...
The intention of the Spirit of truth is the restoration of an alienated, deceived humanity... The teaching role of the Paraclete tends to be remembered as a major emphasis of the Farewell Discourses, yet only 14:26 says She will teach you all things. (Teaching is, however, implied when 16:13-15 says that the Spirit will guide you into all truth, and will speak and declare.) Franz Mussner remarks that the word used in 14:26, didaskein, "means literally 'teach, instruct,' but in John it nearly always means to reveal.” (Stevick 2011, 292-7)
Stephen E. Witmer, Divine instruction in Early Christianity   
“F. Robert Kysar, John, the Maverick Gospel 
Danny Mahar, Aramaic Made EZ Lucy Reid, She Changes Everything
David Fleer, Preaching John's Gospel: The World It Imagines Berard L. Marthaler, The Creed: The Apostolic Faith in Contemporary Theology
George Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament In Spirit and Truth, Benny Thettayil
Jesus and His Own: A Commentary on John 13-17 Marianne Meye Thompson, The God of the Gospel of John
Eric Eve, The Jewish Context of Jesus' Miracles “D.
Michael Welker, God the Spirit Georg Strecker, Theology of the New Testament
Tricia Gates Brown, Spirit in the writings of John Michael Welker, The work of the Spirit: pneumatology and Pentecostalism
Robert Kysar, Voyages with John: Charting the Fourth Gospel John F. Moloney, The Gospel of John
Harvey Cox, The Future of Faith Robert Kysar, John
Robert E. Picirilli, The Randall House Bible Commentary George Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament 
“The teaching of the Paraclete, as the continuation of Jesus' teaching, must also be understood as the fulfillment of the promise of eschatological divine instruction.”
Stephen E. Witmer, Divine instruction in Early Christianity

“Jesus therefore predicts that God will later send a human being to Earth to take up the role defined by John .i.e. to be a prophet who hears God's words and repeats his message to man.”
M. Bucaille, The Bible, the Qur'n, and Science

“And when Jesus foreannounced another Comforter, He must have intended a Person as distinct and helpful as He had been.”
F. B. Meyer, Love to the Utmost

“The Paraclete has a twofold function: to communicate Christ to believers and, to put the world on trial.”
Robert Kysar, John The Meverick Gospel

“But She—the Spirit, the Paraclete...—will teach you everything.”
Danny Mahar, Aramaic Made EZ)

“Grammatical nonsense but evidence of the theological desire to defeminize the Divine.”
Lucy Reid, She Changes Everything

“The functions of the Paraclete spelled out in verses 13-15... are all acts of open and bold speaking in the highest degree.”
David Fleer, Preaching John's Gospel

“The reaction of the world to the Paraclete will be much the same as the world's reaction was to Jesus.”
Berard L. Marthaler, The Creed: The Apostolic Faith in Contemporary Theology

Bultmann calls the “coming of the Redeemer an 'eschatological event,' 'the turning-point of the ages.”
G. Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament

“The Paraclete equated with the Holy Spirit, is the only mediator of the word of the exalted Christ.”
Benny Thettayil, In Spirit and Truth

“The divine Paraclete, and no lessor agency, must show the world how wrong it was about him who was in the right.”
Daniel B. Stevick , Jesus and His Own: A Commentary on John 13-17

Stephen Smalley asserts that “The Spirit-Paraclete ... in John's Gospel is understood as personal, indeed, as a person.”
Marianne Thompson, The God of the Gospel of John

“The Messiah will come and the great age of salvation will dawn (for the pious).”
Eric Eve, The Jewish context of Jesus' Miracles

“The remembrance is to relive and re-enact the Christ event, to bring about new eschatological decision in time and space.”
Daniel Rathnakara Sadananda, The Johannine Exegesis of God

“The Spirit acts in such an international situation as the revealer of 'judgment' on the powers that rule the world.”
Michael Welker, God the Spirit

The Paraclete's “Appearance means that sin, righteousness, and judgment will be revealed.”
Georg Strecker, Theology of the New Testament

“While the Spirit-Paraclete is the true broker, the brokers they rely on are impostors.”
T. G. Brown, Spirit in the writings of John

“The pneumatological activity ... of the Paraclete ... may most helpfully be considered in terms of the salvific working of the hidden Spirit.”
Michael Welker, The work of the Spirit

“The pneuma is the peculiar power by which the word becomes the words of eternal life.”
Robert Kysar, Voyages with John

“The gift of peace, therefore, is intimately associated with the gift of the Spirit-Paraclete.”
Francis J. Moloney, The Gospel of John

“This utopian hope, even when modestly expressed, links Jesus and the prophets to a much wider history of human longing.”
Harvey Cox, The Future of Faith

“Because of the presence of the Paraclete in the life of the believer, the blessings of the end-times—the eschaton—are already present.”
Robert Kysar, John

“They are going, by the Holy Spirit's power, to be part of the greatest miracle of all, bringing men to salvation.”
R. Picirilli, The Randall House Bible Commentary

“The Kingdom of God stands as a comprehensive term for all that the messianic salvation included... is something to be sought here and now (Mt. 6:33) and to be received as children receive a gift (Mk. 10:15 = Lk. 18:16-17).”
G. Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament

“But today is the day I declare that I am the one who has to save the humanity. I declare I am the one who is Adishakti, who is the Mother of all the Mothers, who is the Primordial Mother, the Shakti, the desire of God, who has incarnated on this Earth to give its meaning to itself; to this creation, to human beings and I am sure through My Love and patience and My powers I am going to achieve it.

I was the one who was born again and again. But now in my complete form and complete powers I have come on this Earth not only for salvation of human beings, not only for their emancipation, but for granting them the Kingdom of Heaven, the joy, the bliss that your Father wants to bestow upon you.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
London, UK—December 2, 1979

“I am the one about which Christ has talked... I am the Holy Spirit who has incarnated on this Earth for your realization.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
New York, USA—September 30, 1981

“Tell all the nations and tell all the people all over the Great Message that the Time of Resurrection is here. Now, at this time, and that you are capable of doing it.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
Cowley Manor Seminar, UK—July 31, 1982

Guest: “Hello Mother.”
Shri Mataji: “Yes.”
Guest: “I wanted to know, is the Cool Breeze (Pneuma) that you have spoken about, you feel on the hands the Cool Wind of the Holy Spirit, as spoken about in the Bible?”
Shri Mataji: “Yes. Yes, yes, same thing, same thing. You have done the good job now, I must say.”
Interviewer: “Is it the Holy Spirit?”
Shri Mataji: “Yes, of course, is the Holy Spirit.”
Guest: “Aha... I am feeling it now on my hand through the [not clear]”
Shri Mataji: “It’s good.”
Interviewer: “Did you want to say anything more than that?”
Guest: “No, I just... That’s all I wanted to know because I...”
Shri Mataji: “Because you are thoughtless now. Enjoy yourself.”
Guest: “Thank you.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Talkback Radio 2UE, Sydney, Australia—March 31, 1981
(The guest experienced the Cool Breeze [Pneuma/Prana/Chi] of the Spirit through the baptism [second birth by Spirit/Kundalini awakening] given by the Comforter Shri Mataji over the radio. )

Second Guest: “I just want to ask Mother about a quotation from the Bible.”
Interviewer: “Yes, what’s that?”
Guest: “It says, ‘But the comfort of the Holy Spirit that the Father will send in My name would teach you all things.’ I would like to ask Her about that.”
Interviewer: “Could you just repeat the quotation again?”
Guest: “But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, will teach you all things.”
Interviewer: “And that’s from where?”
Guest: “John chapter 14, verse 26.”
Shri Mataji: “I think you should take your realization and then you will know the answer to it. Because, logically if it points out to one person, then you have to reach the conclusion, isn’t it? That’s a logical way of looking at things. But I am not going to say anything or claim anything. It is better you people find out yourself.”
Interviewer: “Does that answer your question?”
Guest: “Is the, is the Comforter on the Earth at the present time? Has the Comforter incarnated? Mataji should be able to tell us this because She said that through these vibrations on Her hands, She ...”
Shri Mataji: “Yes, She is very much here and She’s talking to you now. Can you believe that?”
Guest: “Well, I feel something cool [Pneuma/Prana/Chi] on my hand. Is that some indication of the ...?”
Shri Mataji: “Yes, very much so. So that’s the proof of the thing. You’ve already started feeling it in your hands.”
Guest: “Can I?”
Shri Mataji: “Ask the question, ‘Mother, are you the Comforter?’”
Guest: “Mother, are you the Comforter?”
Shri Mataji: “Ask it thrice.”
Guest: “Mother, are you the Comforter?”
Shri Mataji: “Again.”
Guest: “Mother, are you the Comforter?”
Shri Mataji: “Now, what do you get?”
Guest: “Oh, I feel this kind of cool tingling [Pneuma/Prana/Chi] passing all through my body.”
Shri Mataji: “That’s the answer now.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Talkback Radio 2UE, Sydney, Australia—March 31, 1981
(Another guest also experienced the Cool Breeze [Pneuma/Prana/Chi] of the Spirit through the baptism [second birth by Spirit/Kundalini awakening] given by the Comforter Shri Mataji over the radio. )

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi (1923-2011): Christian by birth, Hindu by marriage and Paraclete by duty.
The Paraclete and the disciples (vv. 25-26): The theme of departure (cf. vv. 1-6; vv. 18-24) returns. There are two "times" in the experience of the disciples: the now as Jesus speaks to them (v. 25) and the future time when the Paraclete, the Holy Spirit, sent by the Father in the name of Jesus, will be with them (v. 26). The Paraclete will replace Jesus' physical presence, teaching them all things and recalling for them everything he has said (v. 26). As Jesus is the Sent One of the Father (cf. 4:34; 5:23; 24, 30, 37; 6:38-40; 7:16; 8:16, 18, 26; 12:44-49), so is the Paraclete sent by the Father. The mission and purpose of the former Paraclete, Jesus (cf. 14:13-14), who speaks and teaches "his own" will continue into the mission and purpose of the "other Paraclete" (cf. v. 16) who teaches and brings back the memory of all that Jesus has said. The time of Jesus is intimately linked with the time after Jesus, and the accepted meaning of a departure has been undermined. The inability of the disciples to understand the words and deeds of Jesus will be overcome as they "remember" what he had said (cf. 2:22) and what had been written of him and done to him (cf. 12:16). The "remembering" will be the fruit of the presence of the Paraclete with the disciples in the in-between-time. In v. 16 Jesus focused on the inability of the world to know the Paraclete, but in v. 26 the gift of the Paraclete to "his own" is developed. As Jesus was with the disciples (v. 25), so will the Paraclete be with the disciples in the midst of hostility and rejection (v. 16). As the story has insisted that Jesus' teaching has revealed God to his disciples, so will the Paraclete recall and continue Jesus' revelation of God to the disciples (v. 26).” (Harrington 1998, 412)

“This is the transformation that has worked, of which Christ has talked, Mohammed Sahib has talked, everybody has talked about this particular time when people will get transformed.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
Chistmas Puja, Ganapatipule, India—25 December 1997

“The Resurrection of Christ has to now be collective Resurrection. This is what is Mahayoga. Has to be the collective Resurrection.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
Easter Puja, London, UK—11 April 1982

“Today, Sahaja Yaga has reached the state of Mahayoga, which is en-masse evolution manifested through it. It is this day’s Yuga Dharma. It is the way the Last Judgment is taking place. Announce it to all the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world, so that nobody misses the blessings of the divine to achieve their meaning, their absolute, their Spirit.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh

“The main thing that one has to understand is that the time has come for you to get all that is promised in the scriptures, not only in the Bible but all all the scriptures of the world. The time has come today that you have to become a Christian, a Brahmin, a Pir, through your Kundalini awakening only. There is no other way. And that your Last Judgment is also now.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh

“You see, the Holy Ghost is the Mother. When they say about the Holy Ghost, She is the Mother... Now, the principle of Mother is in every, every scripture — has to be there. Now, the Mother's character is that She is the one who is the Womb, She is the one who is the Mother Earth, and She is the one who nourishes you. She nourishes us. You know that. And this Feminine thing in every human being resides as this Kundalini.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Radio Interview, Santa Cruz, USA—1 October 1983

“But there is a Primordial Mother which was accepted by all the religions; even the Jews had it... In India, this is called as Adi Shakti. In every religion they had this Mother who was the Primordial Mother.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
TV Interview, Los Angeles, USA—11 October 1993

The Paraclete Shri Mataji (1923-2011)

Total number of Recorded Talks 3058, Public Programs 1178, Pujas 651 and Other (private conversations) 1249

“What are they awaiting but for the Hour to come upon them suddenly? Its Signs have already come. What good will their Reminder be to them when it does arrive?” (Qur'n, 47:18) “As the above verse indicates, God has revealed some of Doomsday's signs in the Qur'n. In Surat az-Zukhruf 43:61, God informs us that 'He [Jesus] is a Sign of the Hour. Have no doubt about it...' Thus we can say, based particularly on Islamic sources but also on the Old Testament and the New Testament, that we are living in the End Times.” Harun Yahya

Good News (An Naba) of Resurrection (Al-Qiyamah): Videos 3474, Audios 1945, Transcripts 3262 and Events 2413

“Concerning what are they disputing?
Concerning the Great News. [5889]
About which they cannot agree.
Verily, they shall soon (come to) know!
Verily, verily they shall soon (come to) know!”

surah 78:1-5 An Naba (The Great News)
5889. Great News: usually understood to mean the News or Message of the Resurrection.

Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur'n
Amana Corporation, 1989

[Moderator]: “Any other questions?”
[Audience]: “Pardon me for asking this question, but, earlier you talked about the Resurrection and you mentioned about the scriptures, where like in the Hindus scriptures they talk about the Kalki Avatar who will come for the Resurrection, and for the Christians, I know they talk about the return of Christ and all the religions talk about this Resurrection and the belief in the coming of the Messiah. So I just want to know since you say you are going to give the resurrection to us, what is your station?”

Shri Mataji: “In Russia?”
[Audience]: “And are you the promised Messiah? Shri Mataji, are you?”
Shri Mataji: “I see now I am not going to tell you anything about myself, to be very frank. Because see Christ said He was the Son of God, and they crucified Him. I don't want to get crucified. You have to find out. When you become the Spirit you will know what I am. I don't want to say anything about myself.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
Toronto, Canada—October 5, 1993

“Jesus then goes on the offensive against the scribes and Pharisees, pronouncing seven woes against them (Matt. 23:1-36). The final woe identifiers them with all those in Israel's history who have murdered and opposed the prophets. From Abel to Zechariah, all the blood of the righteous will come on them as they typologically fulfill this pattern in the murder of Jesus (23:29-36). They are the wicked tenants who think to kill the son and take his inheritance (21:38). They are seed of the serpent, a brood of vipers (23:33). Their house (the temple?) is desolate, and they will not see Jesus again until they bless him as he comes in the name of the Lord (23:37-39). Somehow, through the judgments Jesus announces against them, salvation will apparently come even for the people of Israel. As Olmstead puts it, Matthew "dares to hope for the day when many of Israel's sons and daughters will embrace Israel's Messiah (23:39), and in that hope engages in a continued mission in her.”” Hamilton 2010, 377

“It is the Mother who can awaken the Kundalini, and that the Kundalini is your own Mother. She is the Holy Ghost within you, the Adi Shakti, and She Herself achieves your transformation. By any talk, by any rationality, by anything, it cannot be done.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi

“She is your pure Mother. She is the Mother who is individually with you. Forget your concepts, and forget your identifications. Please try to understand She is your Mother, waiting for ages to give you your real birth. She is the Holy Ghost within you. She has to give you your realization, and She's just waiting and waiting to do it.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
Sydney, Australia—Mar 22 1981

“The Kundalini is your own mother; your individual mother. And She has tape-recorded all your past and your aspirations. Everything! And She rises because She wants to give you your second birth. But She is your individual mother. You don't share Her with anybody else. Yours is a different, somebody else's is different because the tape-recording is different. We say She is the reflection of the Adi Shakti who is called as Holy Ghost in the Bible.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Press Conference July 08 1999—London, UK

The Great Goddess is both wholly transcendent and fully immanent: beyond space and time, she is yet embodied within all existent beings; without form as pure, infinite consciousness (cit) ... She is the universal, cosmic energy known as Sakti, and the psychophysical, guiding force designated as the Kundalini (Serpent Power) resident within each individual. She is eternal, without origin or birth, yet she is born in this world in age after age, to support those who seek her assistance. Precisely to provide comfort and guidance to her devotees, she presents herself in the Devi Gita to reveal the truths leading both to worldly happiness and to the supreme spiritual goals: dwelling in her Jeweled Island and mergence into her own perfect being.” (Brown, 1998, 2)

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