Logion 18: "The disciples asked Jesus: 'Tell us about the end. What will it be?'"

The Paraclete Shri Mataji (Mar 21, 1923 - Feb 23, 2011)
Mar 21, 1923"A. Feb 23, 2011
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi was
Christian by birth, Hindu by
marriage, and Paraclete by duty.
"The Paraclete represents direct,
intimate divine intervention,
supporting and teaching
believers and challenging the
world, as Jesus did." (D. Stevick
Jesus and His Own, 2011, 290)
"But who talks about the Resurrection? Nobody talks about it today. They talk about the Doomsday because they can frighten people with that. They can take advantage of it and make money out of it. God, who has made this universe, feels love. Do you think He will destroy this great creation without giving us the fruit, without letting us know the fruit of His creation? He is the wisest of the wise, the greatest compassionate source of love. How could He allow this universe to be destroyed, especially this Earth, which is His special present? So do not believe in all these ideas of destruction and the last complete destruction. There are still a lot of plans. You are supposed to enjoy the blessings of the Divine for which He has created you.

So, now we have to come to the most important part which is evolution, which we should understand, because we know evolution through science.

When these three forces came into being, - before creating any earth or before creating this universe or anything, - first, they had to draw out a proper picture about it and a proper understanding of it, you see.

As before doing anything, say, we have to plan out things, we have a planning-commission, first of all, we sit down in a planning commission. In the same way, first, they had to form a stage where they just plan out the things. This stage we can call it as the Vaikuntha state. Because this is not the earliest thing, this is created later on. First, the planning state is known as the Vaikuntha state.

At this stage they created all the incarnations. Incarnations were not created after the Earth has been created, which is a very wrong idea. They created all the incarnations at the Vaikuntha state. Where your own eye never existed at that time, this Earth never existed and nothing existed that you see with your naked eyes now. But a state of existence, the first one, known as the Vaikuntha state, existed. In that Vaikuntha state the planning of the whole universe and the whole cosmos and all that was decided.

So, the first person who had to come on this was Shiva, because without him nothing can exist, but where to settle Him down, because He is to be reflected onto someone. If Shiva has to be reflected onto someone, you have to create a reflector. So, they had to, first, think of the one Primordial Being or, a - one huge identity you can call it, - known as Virat. They created Virat. This will be the Virata. This will be the complete form of the Primordial Being. This is the one I'm telling you about, this reflector. The first one. The God Almighty has to be reflected - so, first, let us create, first of all, the Primordial Being, the Virat.

In the Virat they created different incarnations. Incarnations are not created from human beings. I don't know why people think like that - they cannot be created by human beings. But they were first created. You see, evolution is all right from amoeba to human beings, but there is no evolution for incarnations. They are made like that from the very beginning."

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
"The Creation", New Delhi, India—20 February 1977.

"Now, let's see who is this God and what am I talking about. In the beginning it was just a Silence, complete Silence. And out of the Silence, when it awakened, the Silence was awakened. That Silence is called as Parama-Brahma in Sanskrit language."

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Brighton, UK—15 November 1979

Richard Valantasis, The Gospel of Jesus
18a The disciples asked Jesus: Tell us about the end. What will it be? Jesus replied: Have you found the Beginning so that you now seek the end? The place of the Beginning will be the place of the end.
18b Blessed is anyone who will stand up in the Beginning and thereby know the end and never die.

The Gospel of Thomas often portrays the disciples as ignorant of, Jesus' fundamental message. As usual, here they act as foils, asking wrong question from the wrong perspective in order to provide a chance to correct them. Their question shows that they expect a future Kingdom-an expectation that has characterized orthodox Christians for two thousand years. Here Jesus rejects that form of Christianity. He insists on a reorientation toward the Beginning of time. Beginning is the first days of creation as described in Genesis 1-4. That is a special kind of time, time that is always present-time, even though it is not always perceived. You can find it right in front of you now. If you do not find it, it does not exist for you except in potential, and you remain in poverty even though you are surrounded by riches.

Saying 18b is a beatitude, affirming the blessing of all who have found the Beginning now and, simultaneously, who have experienced the end, for the ending is a return to the Beginning. Such people discovered their original form, the Image of God, and the Image of can never die.

"Whereas 'Q' emphasized the eschatological expectation of the future coming of the 'Kingdom of God,' The Gospel of Thomas in its oldest form, stressed the finding of wisdom, or of the 'Kingdom of the Father,' in the knowledge (gnosis) of oneself (cf. saying 3), guided by the sayings of Jesus. This understanding of salvation is similar to that expressed in many passages of the Gospel of John in which the finding of truth and life is bound to the words of Jesus (Jn 6:63; 8:5 1). " — Helmut Koester, "Introduction," in the Nag Hammadi Library in English, p. 125

Stevan Davies, Gospel of Thomas Translated and Annotated
Shambhala Library, Dec 2004, pp. 24-5

Richard Valantasis, The Gospel of Jesus
Saying 18 The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us, how will our end come?" 2Jesus said, "Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is. 3Blessed is [SV: Congratulations to] the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

The saying presents a rich theological perspective relating to the goal and mode of living. The "end" about which the disciples ask presumably relates to their deaths. The irony in Jesus' response supports their misunderstanding. Jesus' response, however, argues that the proper "end" should be understood more accurately as "The goal," and he argues that the goal of human endeavor involves a return to the beginning. The beginning, however, exists perpetually: it is discussed in the present so that the end in the future will return to the beginning which presently exists ("The end will be where the beginning is"- my emphasis). The beginning, then, must be understood as a primordial place of origin that continues throughout time; the end returns a person in the future to that primordial point of origin. This saying presents a mythologized understanding of human origins and destiny common in ancient religion as a future return to a continually existent point of origin.

The saying also links this mythology with immortality in the macarism. The language shifts in the macarism to use code concepts: "to stand," "to know," and "not to taste death." The searching of the dialogue has been replaced with the macarism that blesses "The one who stands" at the beginning. The articulated goal of the dialogue (finding the beginning) has been transformed into a status in relationship to the perpetually present point of origin: the truly understanding seeker may "stand" at the beginning and will thereby receive two benefits, namely, knowledge of the end and immortality. This macarism takes the myth of seeking the end in the beginning and turns it into a theological statement about the seeker: standing at the beginning brings both understanding and immortality.

This macarism also invokes other theological principles in the Gospel collection. The final statement "And will not taste death" recalls the earlier Saying 1 that affirms that finding the interpretation of the sayings confers immortality ("Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death"). The standing may be identified with the discovery of the interpretation of the saying. Moreover, the seeker's "standing" recalls the earlier stance of the believers in relationship to the hostile world (Saying 16) and the later stance of Jesus in the world to which he came (Saying 28). Such rich intertextual reference indicates that a complex theological process undergirds this saying and its meaning: the goal of human existence is to find the beginning which may be identified with the interpretation of these texts, to gain understanding and knowledge, to achieve immortality, to achieve a solid status with other seekers in the world and to imitate Jesus' stance in the world.

Richard Valantasis, The Gospel of Thomas
Routledge; 1 edition (June 27, 1997) p. 85-7

The fulfillment of the promised divine eschatological instruction
Stephen E. Witmer, Divine instruction in Early Christianity   
F. B. Meyer, Love to the Utmost Robert Kysar, John, the Maverick Gospel 
Danny Mahar, Aramaic Made EZ Lucy Reid, She Changes Everything
David Fleer, Preaching John's Gospel: The World It Imagines Berard L. Marthaler, The Creed: The Apostolic Faith in Contemporary Theology
George Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament In Spirit and Truth, Benny Thettayil
Jesus and His Own: A Commentary on John 13-17 Marianne Meye Thompson, The God of the Gospel of John
Eric Eve, The Jewish Context of Jesus' Miracles D. R. Sadananda, The Johannine Exegesis of God: an exploration into the Johannine understanding of God
Michael Welker, God the Spirit Georg Strecker, Theology of the New Testament
Tricia Gates Brown, Spirit in the writings of John Michael Welker, The work of the Spirit: pneumatology and Pentecostalism
Robert Kysar, Voyages with John: Charting the Fourth Gospel John F. Moloney, The Gospel of John
Harvey Cox, The Future of Faith Robert Kysar, John
Robert E. Picirilli, The Randall House Bible Commentary George Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament 
“The teaching of the Paraclete, as the continuation of Jesus' teaching, must also be understood as the fulfillment of the promise of eschatological divine instruction.”
Stephen E. Witmer, Divine instruction in Early Christianity

“Jesus therefore predicts that God will later send a human being to Earth to take up the role defined by John .i.e. to be a prophet who hears God's words and repeats his message to man.”
M. Bucaille, The Bible, the Qur'n, and Science

“And when Jesus foreannounced another Comforter, He must have intended a Person as distinct and helpful as He had been.”
F. B. Meyer, Love to the Utmost

“The Paraclete has a twofold function: to communicate Christ to believers and, to put the world on trial.”
Robert Kysar, John The Meverick Gospel

“But She—the Spirit, the Paraclete...—will teach you everything.”
Danny Mahar, Aramaic Made EZ)

“Grammatical nonsense but evidence of the theological desire to defeminize the Divine.”
Lucy Reid, She Changes Everything

“The functions of the Paraclete spelled out in verses 13-15... are all acts of open and bold speaking in the highest degree.”
David Fleer, Preaching John's Gospel

“The reaction of the world to the Paraclete will be much the same as the world's reaction was to Jesus.”
Berard L. Marthaler, The Creed: The Apostolic Faith in Contemporary Theology

Bultmann calls the “coming of the Redeemer an 'eschatological event,' 'the turning-point of the ages.”
G. Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament

“The Paraclete equated with the Holy Spirit, is the only mediator of the word of the exalted Christ.”
Benny Thettayil, In Spirit and Truth

“The divine Paraclete, and no lessor agency, must show the world how wrong it was about him who was in the right.”
Daniel B. Stevick , Jesus and His Own: A Commentary on John 13-17

Stephen Smalley asserts that “The Spirit-Paraclete ... in John's Gospel is understood as personal, indeed, as a person.”
Marianne Thompson, The God of the Gospel of John

“The Messiah will come and the great age of salvation will dawn (for the pious).”
Eric Eve, The Jewish context of Jesus' Miracles

“The remembrance is to relive and re-enact the Christ event, to bring about new eschatological decision in time and space.”
Daniel Rathnakara Sadananda, The Johannine Exegesis of God

“The Spirit acts in such an international situation as the revealer of 'judgment' on the powers that rule the world.”
Michael Welker, God the Spirit

The Paraclete's “Appearance means that sin, righteousness, and judgment will be revealed.”
Georg Strecker, Theology of the New Testament

“While the Spirit-Paraclete is the true broker, the brokers they rely on are impostors.”
T. G. Brown, Spirit in the writings of John

“The pneumatological activity ... of the Paraclete ... may most helpfully be considered in terms of the salvific working of the hidden Spirit.”
Michael Welker, The work of the Spirit

“The pneuma is the peculiar power by which the word becomes the words of eternal life.”
Robert Kysar, Voyages with John

“The gift of peace, therefore, is intimately associated with the gift of the Spirit-Paraclete.”
Francis J. Moloney, The Gospel of John

“This utopian hope, even when modestly expressed, links Jesus and the prophets to a much wider history of human longing.”
Harvey Cox, The Future of Faith

“Because of the presence of the Paraclete in the life of the believer, the blessings of the end-times—the eschaton—are already present.”
Robert Kysar, John

“They are going, by the Holy Spirit's power, to be part of the greatest miracle of all, bringing men to salvation.”
R. Picirilli, The Randall House Bible Commentary

“The Kingdom of God stands as a comprehensive term for all that the messianic salvation included... is something to be sought here and now (Mt. 6:33) and to be received as children receive a gift (Mk. 10:15 = Lk. 18:16-17).”
G. Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament

“I am the one about which Christ has talked... I am the Holy Spirit who has incarnated on this Earth for your realization."

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh

"Tell all the nations and tell all the people all over the Great Message that the Time of Resurrection is here. Now, at this time, and that you are capable of doing it.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
Cowley Manor Seminar, UK—July 31, 1982

"This is the transformation that has worked, of which Christ has talked, Mohammed Sahib has talked, everybody has talked about this particular time when people will get transformed.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
Chistmas Puja, Ganapatipule, India—25 December 1997

"The Resurrection of Christ has to now be collective resurrection. This is what is Mahayoga. Has to be the collective resurrection.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh
Easter Puja, London, UK—11 April 1982

"Announce it to all the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world, so that nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve their meaning, their absolute, their spirit.”

THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi

"The main thing that one has to understand is that the time has come for you to get all that is promised in the scriptures, not only in the Bible but all the scriptures of the world.”

The Paraclete Shri Mataji

“Now, the principle of Mother is in every, every scripture - has to be there." The Paraclete Shri Mataji, Radio Interview Oct 01 1983—Santa Cruz, USA

"But today is the day I declare that I am the One who has to save the humanity. I declare I am the One who is Adishakti, who is The Mother of all The Mothers, who is the Primordial Mother, the Shakti, the desire of God, who has incarnated on this Earth to give its meaning to itself; to this creation, to human beings and I am sure through My Love and patience and My powers I am going to achieve it. I was the One who was born again and again, but now in my complete form and complete powers I have come on this Earth not only for salvation of human beings, not only for their emancipation, but for granting them the Kingdom of Heaven, the Joy, the Bliss that your Father wants to bestow upon you."
The Paraclete Shri Mataji, December 2, 1979—London, UK

"It is The Mother who can awaken the Kundalini, and that the Kundalini is your own Mother. She is the Holy Ghost within you, the Adi Shakti, and She Herself achieves your transformation. By any talk, by any rationality, by anything, it cannot be done." THE MOTHER: Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi

"She is your pure Mother. She is The Mother who is individually with you. Forget your concepts, and forget your identifications. Please try to understand She is your Mother, waiting for ages to give you your real birth. She is the Holy Ghost within you. She has to give you your realization, and She's just waiting and waiting to do it.”
The Paraclete Shri Mataji, Public Program Mar 22 1981—Sydney, Australia

“The Kundalini is your own mother; your individual mother. And She has tape-recorded all your past and your aspirations. Everything! And She rises because She wants to give you your second birth. But She is your individual mother. You don't share Her with anybody else. Yours is a different, somebody else's is different because the tape-recording is different. We say She is the reflection of the Adi Shakti who is called as Holy Ghost in the Bible.”
The Paraclete Shri Mataji, Press Conference July 08 1999—London, UK

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