Logion 9: "Others fell on fertile ground, and their fruits grew up toward heaven."


The Paraclete Shri Mataji (Mar 21, 1923 - Feb 23, 2011)
Mar 21, 1923 a€" Feb 23, 2011
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi was
Christian by birth, Hindu by
marriage, and Paraclete by duty.
"The Paraclete represents direct,
intimate divine intervention,
supporting and teaching
believers and challenging the
world, as Jesus did." (D. Stevick
Jesus and His Own, 2011, 290)
"I've worked on only six people for four years, can you believe it? Very difficult nuts to be cracked, you see. But once they were cracked it has blown up like anything. And now we have thousands of people who are realized. Of course. I do not keep any records of them, there is no organization, nothing, You know them through your vibrations by which you know that they are realized or not. Because you become collectively conscious, you become; again and again I say, it's the becoming. You start feeling others and you start feeling yourself. it is important, vital, absolutely the thing for you to do. You have to get it, if not today then tomorrow. Why not do it today, it's a good idea.

But after getting it one has to know that, as Christ has described, some seed fell on the rock, in the same way it happens, you have to look after it, you have to make it grow, you have to master it, and you have to become the guru yourself.

And as I told you this morning, you better go and ask ail these gurus to pay back the money. This is best way we can understand that it is beyond rationality. I'm talking about the unlimited; our rationality is limited, our brains are limited. But many things can be understood. So many people reached the conclusion that it is the Kundalini awakening, is the one which is going to give us self-realization. Through their limited brain only, they reached it."

The Paraclete Shri Mataji


"To understand life, consider the case of something that is living: a germinating seed. The seed grows by itself into a tree, blooms into flowers, and then the flowers become fruit. Any human effort cannot change the process of growth from a seed into a tree. The gardener can only look after the growth of the tree. In the same way, the process of the growth of our consciousness, to further evolution, takes place effortlessly."

The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi


"Because I said it is innately built in them, a seed if it is planted in The Mother Earth then it sprouts, in the same way they have innately built within them the Kundalini it sprouts, so how is it I have done? But he said The Mother Earth has done it. I said no, is the quality in Mother Earth which is built in has done it. So he said then who has done all this? So I said it is done by Adi Shakti agreed, but Sahaja Yoga is not done by Adi Shakti she has created these powers in everyone which works out, but Sahaja Yoga is not. Sahaja Yoga works through the innate qualities that are in The Mother Earth and that are in the seed, so I'm here as, not as Adi Shakti, I am here as their Mother, as their Holy Mother and as Holy Mother I have guided them you can say I an like The Mother Earth who sprouts seeds, so there another detachment can come in, into you, that these are your powers, within you which have been just enlightened by your innate nature of Kundalini and that you are empowered, yourself and all this power that is within you is only told by me that it is within you, you see for yourself, only like a mirror, I'm telling you, you are this, you see for yourself, so how can I take any credit for it?"

The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi


"But Sahaja Yoga is different. In Sahaja Yoga you not only grow as a plant, but also, as the source of the plant. If this plant is removed from here put somewhere else, it will give water to other plants. Do you know this new dimension that you have within yourself? That once this plant is uprooted from here and taken out, it will not die. Not at all. It will grow, but it will make others grow. This is another type of a growth that we have."

The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi


"There are many things in this world in respect of which man has not been able to find any satisfactory explanation. Have you ever considered how a seed sprouts? How you breathe? How you make movements? Where from the power in your brain comes? How you came into this world? There are many such things. Can any man satisfactorily explain these things? We say that earth has gravitational force. But from where this force came? A number of things need unfoldment. This is because you are under the influence of an illusion. You have yet to come out of that illusion. Your illusion has to be blown up, otherwise it would grow from strength to strength. For spiritual evolution of man, it is necessary to demolish his illusion. At every stage of evolution, the incarnations have appeared. All of you know that Shri Vishnu incarnated as Shri Rama, and wandered in the forests. He staged a beautiful drama to demonstrate the life of an ideal king. Similar was the life of Shri Krishna and the life of Jesus Christ."

The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi


A QUESTION OF BELIEF - LAURENCE SPICER
30 July 1989, London, UK

Laurence Spicer: "For many years now there's been a growing interest in this country what are commonly known as the Eastern Mystical Religions and they aren't very well understood, T today in the studio with me is Her Holiness Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, now she is the leader of the Sahaja Yoga. Mataji welcome to the studio. Let's take off by looking at the beliefs of the Sahaja Yoga movement."


Shri Mataji: "Sahaja Yoga is a system by which you get spontaneously your self realisation, your self knowledge, by a happening that is within you in a triangular bone called as sacrum, meaning Sacred, lies a power which rises and pierces through your fontanel bone area which was a soft bone in your childhood and then on your central nervous system you can feel the collective consciousness, a new dimension is manifested."

Q.: "So this starts by happening at birth, which is when people have the soft head as it were?"

Shri Mataji: "No it in a dormant state and like a seed as in dormant state, a tree, but when the seed is planted into The Mother Earth, spontaneously it sprouts because a living process and evolution is also a living process, so spontaneously it happens when it gets congenial atmosphere."

Q.: "What then is the congenial atmosphere, when a person actually accepts the teachings?"

Shri Mataji: "They don't have to accept anything blindfolded, because by blindfold you do not get it but you must have an open mind like a scientist has, that supposing a hypothesis is put before you, you should judge it yourself by your experience and then believe in it so there is no need to have any blind faith or any conception, because its a living process, so the congenial atmosphere is atmosphere where you sit down with a person who knows how to raise this power in you and if that person can raise that power then you yourself become entitled, you yourself are endowed with this power to do this to others."

Q.: "What is this power, what is the nature of it?"

Shri Mataji: "This is a power of pure desire within us, now as you know in economics, you say, that in general desire is not satiable, in general, but this is a desire which we call as of pure desire and the pure desire within us, dormantly or maybe with awareness whatever it is exists of achieving self realisation, the connection with this divine is our pure desire, because after that you feel so satisfied you become such a witness, you become such a joyous person and then you want to give this power to everyone."

Q.: "So basically if the human being achieves this desire of all endowment, etc, etc, then they themselves are almost a pure person?"

Shri Mataji: "It purifies, this power rises and purifies and they become absolutely pure people as Christ has described absolutely, they become righteous, they become compassionate, they become very dynamic and also they become very forgiving."

Q.: "I can understand wanting and probably needing that, but it can only be the few sadly who actually do achieve this.?"

Shri Mataji: "The problem is those who have this background, like in India we have this background, because the knowledge in the west is the knowledge of the tree, but knowledge of east is the knowledge of the roots, so they have this background, so then I get about twelve thousand, fifteen thousand people in a meeting when I go to India, but when I come abroad I find the number is at least reduced ten times, or sometimes a hundred times, doesn't matter because there's no background, but the awareness is very strong, the desire is very strong, so those who come, all of them get it."


Jean-Yves Leloup, The Gospel of Thomas
LOGION 9

Yeshua said:
Once a sower went out
and sowed a handful of seeds.
Some fell on the road,
and were eaten by birds.
Some fell among the thorns,
which smothered their growth,
and the worms devoured them.
Some fell among the rocks,
and could not take root.
Others fell on fertile ground,
and their fruits grew up toward heaven.
They produced sixty and one hundred-twenty units per measure.

(CF. GEN. 26; EX 9:8; DEUT 28:39; MATT 13:3-9; MARK 4:3-9; LUKE 8:58; ACTS 12:23.)


This logion recalls the importance of the ground that receives the seed. The growth of the divine seed, which has been planted in each of us, depends on how we receive it. The word is different according to the ear that hears it. The divine seed—in other words, the creative code—is the same for all. Variation in the fruits is dependent upon the type of ground in which the seed grows.

The road symbolizes the typical, ordinary way of mankind, with all its distractions. When the creative seed is received by a dispersed, distracted consciousness, it cannot grow and thrive. It cannot sink its roots deeply into our depths. This is how the gospel becomes reduced to a topic of salon conversation or a consumer product or a form of entertainment: It becomes like a handful of seed thrown to the birds.

When the seed falls among the thorns, it is received by the one-sidedly analytical, critical consciousness so characteristic of many contemporary minds, which chokes and smothers the spontaneity of life. Here, too, the creative code cannot express and incarnate itself.

The self-knowledge of which the Gospel of Thomas speaks is not some form of introspection, some endless process of self-analysis that finally renders us sterile and inhibited. It is a state of nonjudgmental attention, without a"Why?"As Meister Eckhart said.

The worm that lives in the thorns and devours whatever manages to grow there is our narcissism. A consciousness that is constantly turning around its own reflected image blocks the essential movement of the Logos in its unfolding.

Rocks, where the seed cannot take root, often symbolize hardness of heart in the Bible. The closed heart, or"heart of stone," is impervious to the creative code. We often become hard-hearted out of fear. The body itself becomes more rigid, adopting an attitude of defense. Over time this produces a strange kind of armoring in the muscles. But we should never confuse such hardiness with strength. Outer hardness, like the shell of a shrimp, hides an inner weakness or softness. Those who have inner strength—people of"backbone"—have no need to present a hard facade to the world. On the contrary, they have the confidence to show themselves as vulnerable and sensitive. They welcome the creative code without fear, thus providing good soil for the seed.

Good soil must also be worked and plowed, which amounts to work on our own heart. This theme recurs in the Gospel of Thomas. Whether this work on ourselves happens through ascetic practices or through the hardships of life, it makes the heart less hard, less egocentric, and less distracted. It is a long labor involving clearing away the rocks and thorns. The heart then becomes open to the essential and capable of hearing and contemplating the Word of God and the creative code that circulates in our veins. It is then that the fruit of Awakening begins to appear.

Jean-Yves Leloup, The Gospel of Thomas
Inner Traditions (2005) pp. 79-80




Marvin Meyer, The Gospel of Thomas: The Hidden Sayings of Jesus
9 Jesus said," Look, the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered (them). Some fell on the road, and the birds came and pecked them up. Others fell on rock, and they did not take root in the soil and did not produce heads of grain. Others fell on thorns, and they choked the seeds and worms devoured them. And others fell on good soil, and it brought forth a good crop. It yielded sixty per measure and one hundred twenty per measure."

Marvin Meyer, The Gospel of Thomas: The Hidden Sayings of Jesus HarperOne; 2nd edition (October 9, 1992) p. 23




Tau Malachi, The Gnostic Gospel of St. Thomas

VERSE 9

Jesus said," Now the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered them. Some fell on the road, the birds came and gathered them up. Others fell upon rock, did not take root in the soil, and did not produce ears. And others fell on thorns, they choked the seed(s) and worms ate them. And others fell on the good soil and it produced good fruit: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure."


The seed of Light, the Living Word and Wisdom, may be sown in one's consciousness, yet not take root and come to fruition. Teachings and initiations may be imparted but not be integrated and received. Receptivity is dependent upon the state of one's consciousness, the development of the desire to receive and impart. To receive the teachings of secret wisdom and initiation, one must prepare one's consciousness, purify and consecrate oneself to Spirit and Truth.

"Some fell on the road, the birds came and gathered them up."This is the situation of a person who has links to dark and hostile forces, and who is open to extremely negative influences. The demonic beings-forces will immediately devour and dispel the influence of whatever teachings and initiations might be imparted. Indeed, there are some who will approach a holy teacher, a tzaddik, not led by a sincere desire to receive, but for extremely distorted and negative ulterior motives. The dark and hostile forces are attracted like moths to a bright flame and compel the person to approach under the false appearance of a true seeker. Not only will the dark and hostile forces prevent reception of any teachings or initiations, but may also act to attempt to harm the tzaddik, disrupt the continuum, or cause discord in the spiritual community that forms around the tzaddik.

Entering into the mystical path, you must understand that you exist in a play of cosmic forces, Divine forces, demonic forces, and forces of admixture. Behind everything that appears and transpires in this world is the play of these cosmic forces, forces of which the ordinary individual is completely ignorant and unaware. So long as one lives in disbelief or unconscious of these forces, that soul tends to be driven and unconsciously compelled by these forces, held in bondage, as it were, by the play of these forces. It is for this reason that initiates of our tradition seek not only mystical attainment, that is to say a conscious awareness of unity with God, but also seek knowledge and mastery of the occult or hidden forces, so that they might liberate themselves and others from bondage to those cosmic forces of ignorance and direct the cosmic forces according to the Divine Will. Here we come to understand why there is both a mystical and magical side to initiates in a Gnostic Christian Tradition, and why Divine theurgy plays such a strong part in the spiritual practices taught.

"Some fell on rock, did not take root in the soil, and did not produce ears."This is the state of the person who is completely disinterested and unreceptive to spiritual teachings. Such a state of complete nonreceptivity can occur for many reasons. It could be on account of severe grief that the individual refuses to let go and heal, finding a perverse sort of security in their suffering and being unwilling to seek healing and redemption. Likewise, it could be due to being too caught up in the world and self-cherishing or complete disbelief in anything spiritual or divine. It could also occur to a religious person bound to dogmas generated by mortal human beings and confused about the Truth of enlightenment or God. Preconceptions, preconditions, and expectations of all sorts could cause this unreceptive condition, even a concept appearing so innocent as unworthiness or believing oneself incapable could make the heart and mind dense like stone before the Light-transmission.

What is being spoken of is a dense or dull state of consciousness that does not allow the penetration of the Word and Wisdom of God and thus completely prevents the possibility of the Light-transmission. This is the most common state of the ordinary person in the world. While the first state the Master speaks of is due to extreme negativity, extreme negative actions, and karma, this state is due to a lack of development and evolution of the soul being. Not everyone necessarily has a level of soul development adequate to receive the inner teachings and initiation. Likewise, it is possible that even a soul is at that level could stop itself from receiving these things due to ignorance and forgetfulness.

"And others fell on thorns; they choked the seeds and worms ate them."In this situation, the person does have the capacity to receive and, indeed, is destined to meet a spiritual teacher and guide in this life. But although one may have the capacity to receive and the necessary level of soul development, one is distracted by the world and petty lesser desires, to such an extent that one forgets and betrays the seed of Light received. A choice of one's desire and the world seems harmless enough, yet it naturally causes stagnation and regression in the soul's development and evolution and, in a certain sense, can be more harmful than in the first instance of which the Master speaks. Greater damage is done to oneself when there is knowledge of what one is doing, and it is a completely conscious choice, than when an action is performed in ignorance and unconsciously. For this reason, the Master speaks in such a way as to make this sound more horrible than in the case of one under the compulsion of the dark and hostile force.

Here you will understand that, in receiving teachings and initiations, you must guard, cultivate, and integrate what you have received. Without diligence and self-discipline it is impossible to remain upon the path, for one can be easily distracted by desires and convinced by the conventional wisdom of an unenlightened society that there is no harm in such distractions. All Wisdom Traditions speak of the damage that can be done to one who knows, yet betrays what they know in their own heart.

The first instance of unreceptiveness is on account of dark and hostile forces or what we often call"demonic forces"; the second and third situations are due to forces of admixture, that is to say, forces that are neither Divine or anti-divine, good nor evil, but rather neutral in nature. Since two states of nonreceptivity are mentioned on account of forces of admixture, it indicates that such forces may prove the most difficult to overcome and perhaps the most challenging to the Gnostic initiate by the very fact that they are not obviously opposed to the Divine or evil and because they are related to things unenlightened societies condone and encourage. Thus more aspirants will fall to the forces of admixture than to the dark and hostile forces. It is for this reason that many among the tzaddikim do not distinguish in their teachings between forces of darkness and forces of admixture. To their disciples, the effect of either is fundamentally the same.

"And others fell on good soil and it produced good fruit: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure."This is the situation of the person who is receptive, not only receiving for oneself alone but for the sake of being able to share and impart with others what has been received. Teachings and initiations are not fully received until they are integrated and our reception is not complete until we are able to share and impart these teachings with others. Sharing and imparting the Light received is an integral part of receiving it, and we ourselves are received as we receive others in the Spirit of the Messiah.

Here, we discover that we are all called to the divine labor of the great work and that we receive the Light-transmission only to the degree that we integrate it into ourselves and facilitate its extension beyond ourselves, in one way or another, helping to share and impart it with others. This is the true balance to reception and likewise the reflection of God and the Godhead, the All-Giver.

Tau Malachi, The Gnostic Gospel of St. Thomas
Llewellyn Publications (June 8, 2004) pp. 28-31


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THE APOCALYPSE OF THE SPIRIT-PARACLETE
The fulfillment of the promise of eschatological divine instruction
Stephen E. Witmer, Divine instruction in Early Christianity   
F. B. Meyer, Love to the Utmost Robert Kysar, John, the Maverick Gospel 
Danny Mahar, Aramaic Made EZ Lucy Reid, She Changes Everything
David Fleer, Preaching John's Gospel: The World It Imagines Berard L. Marthaler, The Creed: The Apostolic Faith in Contemporary Theology
George Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament In Spirit and Truth, Benny Thettayil
Jesus and His Own: A Commentary on John 13-17 Marianne Meye Thompson, The God of the Gospel of John
Eric Eve, The Jewish Context of Jesus' Miracles D. R. Sadananda, The Johannine Exegesis of God: an exploration into the Johannine understanding of God
Michael Welker, God the Spirit Georg Strecker, Theology of the New Testament
Tricia Gates Brown, Spirit in the writings of John Michael Welker, The work of the Spirit: pneumatology and Pentecostalism
Robert Kysar, Voyages with John: Charting the Fourth Gospel John F. Moloney, The Gospel of John
Harvey Cox, The Future of Faith Robert Kysar, John
Robert E. Picirilli, The Randall House Bible Commentary George Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament 
"The teaching of the Paraclete, as the continuation of Jesus' teaching, must also be understood as the fulfillment of the promise of eschatological divine instruction"Stephen E. Witmer, Divine instruction in Early Christianity

"Jesus therefore predicts that God will later send a human being to Earth to take up the role defined by John .i.e. to be a prophet who hears God's words and repeats his message to man."
M. Bucaille, The Bible, the Qur'n, and Science

"And when Jesus foreannounced another Comforter, He must have intended a Person as distinct and helpful as He had been."
F. B. Meyer, Love to the Utmost

"The Paraclete has a twofold function: to communicate Christ to believers and, to put the world on trial"
Robert Kysar, John The Meverick Gospel

"But She—the Spirit, the Paraclete...—will teach you everything."
Danny Mahar, Aramaic Made EZ)

"Grammatical nonsense but evidence of the theological desire to defeminize the Divine."
Lucy Reid, She Changes Everything

"The functions of the Paraclete spelled out in verses 13-15... are all acts of open and bold speaking in the highest degree."
David Fleer, Preaching John's Gospel

"The reaction of the world to the Paraclete will be much the same as the world's reaction was to Jesus."
Berard L. Marthaler, The Creed: The Apostolic Faith in Contemporary Theology

Bultmann calls the "coming of the Redeemer an 'eschatological event,' 'the turning-point of the ages."
G. Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament

"The Paraclete equated with the Holy Spirit, is the only mediator of the word of the exalted Christ."
Benny Thettayil, In Spirit and Truth

"The divine Paraclete, and no lessor agency, must show the world how wrong it was about him who was in the right."
Daniel B. Stevick , Jesus and His Own: A Commentary on John 13-17

Stephen Smalley asserts that "The Spirit-Paraclete ... in John's Gospel is understood as personal, indeed, as a person."
Marianne Thompson, The God of the Gospel of John

"The Messiah will come and the great age of salvation will dawn (for the pious)"
Eric Eve, The Jewish context of Jesus' Miracles

"The remembrance is to relive and re-enact the Christ event, to bring about new eschatological decision in time and space."
Daniel Rathnakara Sadananda, The Johannine Exegesis of God

"The Spirit acts in such an international situation as the revealer of 'judgment' on the powers that rule the world."
Michael Welker, God the Spirit

The Paraclete's "Appearance means that sin, righteousness, and judgment will be revealed."
Georg Strecker, Theology of the New Testament

"While the Spirit-Paraclete is the true broker, the brokers they rely on are impostors."
T. G. Brown, Spirit in the writings of John

"The pneumatological activity ... of the Paraclete ... may most helpfully be considered in terms of the salvific working of the hidden Spirit."
Michael Welker, The work of the Spirit

"The pneuma is the peculiar power by which the word becomes the words of eternal life."
Robert Kysar, Voyages with John

"The gift of peace, therefore, is intimately associated with the gift of the Spirit-Paraclete"
Francis J. Moloney, The Gospel of John

"This utopian hope, even when modestly expressed, links Jesus and the prophets to a much wider history of human longing."
Harvey Cox, The Future of Faith

"Because of the presence of the Paraclete in the life of the believer, the blessings of the end-times—the eschaton—are already present"
Robert Kysar, John

"They are going, by the Holy Spirit's power, to be part of the greatest miracle of all, bringing men to salvation."
R. Picirilli, The Randall House Bible Commentary

"The Kingdom of God stands as a comprehensive term for all that the messianic salvation included... is something to be sought here and now (Mt. 6:33) and to be received as children receive a gift (Mk. 10:15 = Lk. 18:16-17)."
G. Ladd, A Theology of the New Testament


"I am the one about which Christ has talked... I am the Holy Spirit who has incarnated on this Earth for your realization."

The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi


"Tell all the nations and tell all the people all over the Great Message that the Time of Resurrection is here. Now, at this time, and that you are capable of doing it."

The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Cowley Manor Seminar, UK—July 31, 1982


"This is the transformation that has worked, of which Christ has talked, Mohammed Sahib has talked, everybody has talked about this particular time when people will get transformed."

The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Chistmas Puja, Ganapatipule, India—25 December 1997


"The Resurrection of Christ has to now be collective resurrection. This is what is Mahayoga. Has to be the collective resurrection."

The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi
Easter Puja, London, UK—11 April 1982


"Announce it to all the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world, so that nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve their meaning, their absolute, their spirit."

The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi


"The main thing that one has to understand is that the time has come for you to get all that is promised in the scriptures, not only in the Bible but all the scriptures of the world."

The Paraclete Shri Mataji



"Now, the principle of Mother is in every, every scripture - has to be there."

The Paraclete Shri Mataji, Radio Interview Oct 01 1983—Santa Cruz, USA


"But today is the day I declare that I am the One who has to save the humanity. I declare I am the One who is Adishakti, who is The Mother of all The Mothers, who is the Primordial Mother, the Shakti, the desire of God, who has incarnated on this Earth to give its meaning to itself; to this creation, to human beings and I am sure through My Love and patience and My powers I am going to achieve it. I was the One who was born again and again, but now in my complete form and complete powers I have come on this Earth not only for salvation of human beings, not only for their emancipation, but for granting them the Kingdom of Heaven, the Joy, the Bliss that your Father wants to bestow upon you."

The Paraclete Shri Mataji, December 2, 1979—London, UK


"It is The Mother who can awaken the Kundalini, and that the Kundalini is your own Mother. She is the Holy Ghost within you, the Adi Shakti, and She Herself achieves your transformation. By any talk, by any rationality, by anything, it cannot be done."

The Messiah-Paraclete-Ruh-Devi


"She is your pure Mother. She is The Mother who is individually with you. Forget your concepts, and forget your identifications. Please try to understand She is your Mother, waiting for ages to give you your real birth. She is the Holy Ghost within you. She has to give you your realization, and She's just waiting and waiting to do it."

The Paraclete Shri Mataji, Public Program Mar 22 1981—Sydney, Australia


"The Kundalini is your own mother; your individual mother. And She has tape-recorded all your past and your aspirations. Everything! And She rises because She wants to give you your second birth. But She is your individual mother. You don't share Her with anybody else. Yours is a different, somebody else's is different because the tape-recording is different. We say She is the reflection of the Adi Shakti who is called as Holy Ghost in the Bible."

The Paraclete Shri Mataji, Press Conference July 08 1999—London, UK





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